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Not really Alabama has 4 major cities to Oklahoma’s two, Mobile, Huntsville, Birmingham, and Montgomery
Mobile, Huntsville and Montgomery are in way major cities. Tulsa and Birmingham are barely major cities, at the low end of "major" cities. OKC isn't much better.
OKC, Tulsa and Birmingham are mid-sized cities. Mobile, Huntsville and Montgomery with under a half million people aren't even really small cities. Not comparable.
Mobile, Huntsville and Montgomery are in way major cities. Tulsa and Birmingham are barely major cities, at the low end of "major" cities. OKC isn't much better.
OKC, Tulsa and Birmingham are mid-sized cities. Mobile, Huntsville and Montgomery with under a half million people aren't even really small cities. Not comparable.
All 4 cities are the same size. Plus, two of the Alabama metros are currently consolidating their metros, Mobile and Huntsville, they actually have a sphere of influence of more like 700k each
Again, Birmingham is in the same range as Oklahoma's cities. The other three are not.
Birmingham is a city with a real downtown. But a pretty miserable city that has lost almost half it's population in the last several decades and is a crime disaster. Mobile is a small city with a small downtown and is a city I like a lot. Montgomery and Huntsville are nothing more than large towns with sprawling suburbs. In the Oklahoma region much like NWA.
Again, Birmingham is in the same range as Oklahoma's cities. The other three are not.
Again Alabama is a different beast than Oklahoma, There's a reason why we have a million more people than Oklahoma, yet only one "million+" metro, because you have more options than prairie and prairie/forest. You have the coast, the rolling hills, and the foothills of Appalachian. There's more places to be successful
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Again Alabama is a different beast than Oklahoma, There's a reason why we have a million more people than Oklahoma, yet only one "million+" metro, because you have more options than prairie and prairie with some trees. You have the coast, the rolling hills, and the foothills of Appalachian. There's more places to be successful
You've never been to Oklahoma. It's far from all Great Plains. For example Northeastern Oklahoma is not in the plains and is instead hilly and forested and in the foothills of the Ozarks. This is where Tulsa is located. Oklahoma doesn't have a coastline, but does have multiple mountain ranges.
You've never been to Oklahoma. It's far from all Great Plains. For example Northeastern Oklahoma is not in the plains and is instead hilly and forested and in the foothills of the Ozarks. This is where Tulsa is located. Oklahoma doesn't have a coastline, but does have multiple mountain ranges.
You're right I haven't been to Oklahoma, but it still remains that there is more places to reside/variability in Alabama that will allow for success, which is why we don't need a massive central city like all the other states.
A definite plus for Oklahoma is that alcohol laws are much more consistent across the state in every city and county, quite unlike in Alabama. So there can be no dry or moist cities or counties in Oklahoma. Liquor by the drink is legal everywhere. The only differences between counties are that liquor stores may be closed and/or no liquor by the drink served on Sundays and holidays.
Another plus is Oklahoma's legal medical marijuana program is more liberal than Alabama's. In Oklahoma, it's up to a doctor to judge if use of it is needed, In Alabama, doctor recommendations for it are limited down to a list of medical conditions. A state that does that is limiting to a doctor's right to practice medicine.
Legalized medical marijuana in Oklahoma was made into law by a voter referendum petitioning process not granted to the voters of Alabama. As far as the alcohol law reform, Republicans in the state legislature passed a bill in 2016 to allow Oklahomans to vote on it.
A definite plus for Oklahoma is that alcohol laws are much more consistent across the state in every city and county, quite unlike in Alabama. So there can be no dry or moist cities or counties in Oklahoma. Liquor by the drink is legal everywhere. The only differences between counties are that liquor stores may be closed and/or no liquor by the drink served on Sundays and holidays.
Another plus is Oklahoma's legal medical marijuana program is more liberal than Alabama's. In Oklahoma, it's up to a doctor to judge if use of it is needed, In Alabama, doctor recommendations for it are limited down to a list of medical conditions. A state that does that is limiting to a doctor's right to practice medicine.
Legalized medical marijuana in Oklahoma was made into law by a voter referendum petitioning process not granted to the voters of Alabama. As far as the alcohol law reform, Republicans in the state legislature passed a bill in 2016 to allow Oklahomans to vote on it.
Alright, you got me on that one, our politicians are scum that’s really the last thing that holds the state back
You're right I haven't been to Oklahoma, but it still remains that there is more places to reside/variability in Alabama that will allow for success, which is why we don't need a massive central city like all the other states.
Oklahoma doesn't have a single massive city, there are two cities. Many states have multiple large cities.
Oklahoma doesn't have a single massive city, there are two cities. Many states have multiple large cities.
Yes but those are the only two metros that seems to be growing the rest of the metro/micros are shrinking, most metros in Alabama are growing, Birmingham MSA, Mobile CSA, Tuscaloosa MSA, Huntsville MSA/CSA, Auburn MSA, Dothan MSA, Even Montgomery MSA. According to my calculations Mobile CSA and Birmingham MSA may have actually grew a little more than Huntsville MSA/CSA based on my calculation (my calculations was less than 1% off of what the actual census said was correct so I’m confident in my math) even Montgomery MSA gained about 20k. So again Oklahoma has had two big cities that’s growing but Alabama but has at least 7 metros that are growing and this total growth is much larger than the total growth of Tulsa and OKC together
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