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Old 05-23-2020, 02:01 AM
 
Location: The State Of California
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I believe that this is the moment that BOTH Dallas AND Houston metro areas shoot past Chicago and claim more righteous supremacy in the south.

NYC
LA
DFW
Houston
Chicago

Don't be surprised if one of the Texas metros passes LA next time.

I would fall out of my chair if either DFW or Houston Metros become a 10,000,000 metro Like Chicago.Texas Metros wouldn't surpass L.A. in the next 100 years.
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Old 05-23-2020, 04:31 AM
 
Location: Louisville
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Huh, just noticed Portland went from the 25th to 26th largest city, its growth has really been slowing down lately. Oklahoma City passed it
Pretty much everywhere's growth momentum has been slowing.
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Old 05-23-2020, 06:06 AM
 
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Huh, just noticed Portland went from the 25th to 26th largest city, its growth has really been slowing down lately. Oklahoma City passed it

Metro would be the more accurate story.
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Old 05-23-2020, 07:14 AM
 
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Pretty much everywhere's growth momentum has been slowing.
I doubt everywhere slowed for this 2019 estimate.

The close of the decade is usually conservative so as to make the numbers not look wildly overestimated f the census comes out. It's just a precorrection
2009 wasn't conservative enough in that some cities were just too heavily estimated at the start of decade. Dallas and Atlanta are too great examples from 2009. Atlanta has gone the conservative route but Dallas city looks like it is going to get another revision downward. Dallas grew by 10k from 2000 to 2010. But one year later the estimate showed more growth in that one year than Dallas did in the previous 10 years.
Im just not seeing a less than 1% population increase 2000-2010 going to a 12% increase in 2010-2020.
I predict Atlantas population will me more accurate this time while Dallas will be revised downwards again by 50-100k like in 2010
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Old 05-23-2020, 07:32 AM
 
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I asked the question because unpopulated seemed like a very specific word to me. Parkland is unpopulated. Airport land is unpopulated. Strip mall land is unpopulated, etc. I was just asking for clarification so that I could understand.
A lot of city land is technically unpopulated, and frankly that's the only way that I could imagine Charlotte having 100 square miles of land that doesn't have people living on it. While that assertion is still out there on this thread, I still don't know where the evidence is to back that up. I actually went to Google maps and I don't see ~1/3 of Charlotte's limits undeveloped. I see undeveloped land beyond Charlotte's limits, especially to its west, but I don't see all that much that's not already developed within them. Contrast this with places with even larger land areas like Jacksonville or Nashville, where it's really easy to spot huge swaths of undeveloped land.
Google Earth doesn't do justice. Come take a drive on the west or Southside and you will understand.
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Old 05-23-2020, 08:36 AM
 
Location: Houston, TX
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Is there a link that shows the numbers compared to 2018?
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Old 05-23-2020, 09:11 AM
 
Location: 78745
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2020:

New York City: 8,400,000
Los Angeles: 4,000,000
Chicago: 2,686,000
Philadelphia: 1,593,000
Pittsburgh: ~300,000
Baltimore: 585,000
San Francisco: 893,000
Boston: 705,000
Washington DC: 710,000
Seattle: 754,000
Detroit: 669,000
Cleveland: 368,000
Providence: 185,000
Milwaukee: 593,000
You don't like Texas?

1. Dallas, Houston, San Antonio are well over a million.
2. Austin and Ft. Worth are well over 900,000.
3. All those cities are larger than San Francisco.
4. For several decades they have been growing at a faster rate than all the cities on your list.
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Old 05-23-2020, 10:30 AM
 
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I doubt everywhere slowed for this 2019 estimate.

The close of the decade is usually conservative so as to make the numbers not look wildly overestimated f the census comes out. It's just a precorrection
2009 wasn't conservative enough in that some cities were just too heavily estimated at the start of decade. Dallas and Atlanta are too great examples from 2009. Atlanta has gone the conservative route but Dallas city looks like it is going to get another revision downward. Dallas grew by 10k from 2000 to 2010. But one year later the estimate showed more growth in that one year than Dallas did in the previous 10 years.
Im just not seeing a less than 1% population increase 2000-2010 going to a 12% increase in 2010-2020.
I predict Atlantas population will me more accurate this time while Dallas will be revised downwards again by 50-100k like in 2010
You don't think Dallas city is growing much with all of that metro growth(one year, it reached 165k annual population growth!)? It also has a large city limits and has a solid amount of multi-family construction...there's no way Dallas city shouldn't be growing a lot.
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Old 05-23-2020, 10:38 AM
 
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Chicagoland really killin' it this year.

Aurora: -1,442
Elgin: -641
Cicero: -681
Waukegan: -605
Evanston: -517
Schaumburg: -501
Skokie: -471
Berwyn: -430
Joliet: -386
Wheaton: -363
Arlington Heights: -356
Orland Park: -322
Tinley Park: -322
Downers Grove: -266
Crystal Lake: -164
Bensenville: -152
Wilmette: -131
Oak Brook: -59
Des Plaines: +45
Glenview: +157
Oak Park: +208
Elmhurst: +257
Naperville: +359

(not a random selection: suburbs that to me seem "major")
Yikes. A bit surprising to see the suburbs doing considerably worse than even the city, which is hardly in great shape. What exactly is behind the number of people fleeing the area? Are they fleeing the cold? High taxes?
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Old 05-23-2020, 12:12 PM
 
Location: West Seattle
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Yikes. A bit surprising to see the suburbs doing considerably worse than even the city, which is hardly in great shape. What exactly is behind the number of people fleeing the area? Are they fleeing the cold? High taxes?
I think it's mainly the taxes, yeah. Anecdotally, that's what I always hear when people say they're moving out of the suburbs. When you look at population growth maps of the US by county over the past few years, you can see the outline of Illinois, where the counties are almost all shrinking, while in neighboring states it's about half shrinking/half growing --- so clearly it's something legal/political.
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