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Old 05-24-2020, 08:47 AM
 
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Houston is running with all of its eight cylinders fired up, while Chicago has stalled and started going backwards on the track.

Houston: 637 sq miles


Chicago: 227
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Old 05-24-2020, 09:59 AM
 
Location: La Jolla
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Houston: 637 sq miles


Chicago: 227
Does this change the fact that Chicago is losing while Houston is gaining?

This isn't really a "checkmate", in fact I would say its meaningless here.

Houston has never lost population in a census while Chicago has lost nearly a million just in the city.
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Old 05-24-2020, 10:35 AM
 
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Houston is 599 sq miles of land.Water area doesn't count
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Old 05-24-2020, 10:56 AM
 
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Does this change the fact that Chicago is losing while Houston is gaining?

This isn't really a "checkmate", in fact I would say its meaningless here.

Houston has never lost population in a census while Chicago has lost nearly a million just in the city.

I never said anything about it changing anything.


I never said "checkmate" or inferred anything.


I simply added context.


Houston would have lost population if it were restricted to its pre war boundaries... unless of course, you think that it somehow would avoid the fate of most every city with limited boundaries predating the war?
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Old 05-24-2020, 10:58 AM
 
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Houston is 599 sq miles of land.Water area doesn't count

Of course water "doesn't count" but I didn't look to break it out, because if your land area has grown and you're already hundreds of miles, what are disproving by saying it's about 30 less square miles..?
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Old 05-24-2020, 11:06 AM
 
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Aren't all of the towns around Chicago losing population as well? Even if it expanded to 600 square miles, Chicago would still likely be losing population unfortunately.
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Old 05-24-2020, 11:15 AM
 
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Aren't all of the towns around Chicago losing population as well? Even if it expanded to 600 square miles, Chicago would still likely be losing population unfortunately.
That’s likely true. Cook County lost about 45,000 people since 2010 (945 sq miles)
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Old 05-24-2020, 01:51 PM
 
Location: Houston, TX
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Houston would have lost population if it were restricted to its pre war boundaries... unless of course, you think that it somehow would avoid the fate of most every city with limited boundaries predating the war?
Would it have? Can you provide data that the center neighborhoods of Houston are losing population?
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Old 05-24-2020, 02:42 PM
 
Location: Houston, TX
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Ill do the top 20 cities plus a few others. Below are the growth numbers from 2018-2019:

New York City: -53,264
Los Angeles: 1,980
Chicago: -7,447
Houston: 1,695
Phoenix: 26,317
Philadelphia: 472
San Antonio: 17,237
San Diego: 1,934
Dallas: 1,771
San Jose: -6,235
Austin: 16,349
Jacksonville: 9,070
Fort Worth: 16,369
Columbus: 7,468
Charlotte: 13,194
San Francisco: 853
Indianapolis: 5,481
Seattle: 11,440
Denver: 10,946
Washington DC: 10,415
Boston: 1,453
Detroit: -2,966
Nashville: 3,814
Oklahoma City: 7,145
Portland: 3,904
Las Vegas: 8,091
Memphis: -31
Atlanta: 8,628
Miami: 5,144
Raleigh: 4,755
Tampa: 2,468
Cleveland: -2,205
Cincinnati: 1,663
Orlando: 1,549
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Old 05-24-2020, 08:37 PM
 
Location: South Beach and DT Raleigh
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A lot of these large format, fast growing cities cannot keep growing at their recent rates unless they keep annexing a lot more land. At some point, developable land runs out and growth slows down. Also, you can't keep growing at high rates as the base population increases. This doesn't mean that these cities won't keep growing; it just won't be at crazy high rates. At some point, these cities find their sustainable populations.
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