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I think it's mainly the taxes, yeah. Anecdotally, that's what I always hear when people say they're moving out of the suburbs. When you look at population growth maps of the US by county over the past few years, you can see the outline of Illinois, where the counties are almost all shrinking, while in neighboring states it's about half shrinking/half growing --- so clearly it's something legal/political.
2 things are hurting big cities across the board
1) drop in Immigration, 1.1 to .6 million/year dented lots of growth rates and basically flattened cities Boston to LA
2) Retirement backlog I think the last few years a lot of people who were planning to retire 2010-2014 whose plans were shredded by the Great Recession finally did it and are no longer tethered to large job markets.
I think it's mainly the taxes, yeah. Anecdotally, that's what I always hear when people say they're moving out of the suburbs. When you look at population growth maps of the US by county over the past few years, you can see the outline of Illinois, where the counties are almost all shrinking, while in neighboring states it's about half shrinking/half growing --- so clearly it's something legal/political.
When suburbs start shrinking, it can also be the standard life cycle...the kids moving out, etc.
This is common in regions that don't have substantial infill or renewal.
You don't think Dallas city is growing much with all of that metro growth(one year, it reached 165k annual population growth!)? It also has a large city limits and has a solid amount of multi-family construction...there's no way Dallas city shouldn't be growing a lot.
DFW metro growth was 35% in the 90s, 25% in the 2000s and 20% in the 2010s.
It is no stranger to rapid growth.
You say that there is no way that the metro is growing that much and the city isn't, but the metro was growing at an even faster rate in the 200 0's and yet the city growth in the 2000's was less than 1% while the metro growth was 25%.
Now I know that you are going to say that so many low density buildings or empty lots have been replaced by high density residential. Well the same thing happened in the 2000's and the city still managed only less than 1% growth.
Singles, emptynesters and investors are buying into the city.
For families its the rapidly growing burbs. There are 6 dozen burbs in North Texas all growing by 500% (just a wee bit of exaggeration). Can see
So while the city is getting more structurally dense and awesome, the population density isn't.
On the other hand I think Harris County is being underestimated. The county is massive and not as hemmed in my carnivorous burbs as Dallas is. Huge new suburban neighborhoods have been built on the south, South east, North east and North west while the west continued to expand. Harris county's size swallows up much of the new suburban growth that would have gone to the suburbs of it was day in DFW.
I can see DFW gaining 150k a year and 145k of that going to Collin, tarrant, Denton, Rockwall, Kaufman counties, etc. On the other hand I don't see Houston gaining 100k and Harris County not getting 75% of that.
I dunno. I think there's going to be a repeat of 2010.
Also Harris County is basically Houston and Pasadena and a few tiny cities.
Harris County has near 5 million people. Pasadena is only 150k.
What on earth is going on with the other almost 2.5 million people?
I think Houston should just go ahead and let these communities incorporate.
I can't think of any other metro where the main city and its jurisdiction takes up so much of the metro population. Houston is 2.3M, it's EtJ is 2.3M and the other cities in the metro add up to 2.4million.
Not really shocking news to those that live in Phoenix, but according to this article (based on latest Census numbers) Phoenix grew by more humans than any city in the nation .. for the 4th year in a row.
"The U.S. Census Bureau documented the population of Phoenix to have grown by 26,317 in 2019, increasing the total to an estimated 1,680,992."
The metro (about at 5 million) also just moved into the 10th spot ahead of the Boston metro.
I don't know where they obtained this info on the Census site though.
This is inaccurate. San Antonio added more residents than any other city in the nation in 2017 with Phoenix just behind at second place. Phoenix has been number one for the last two consecutive years (not 4) with SA remaining at #2.
Population estimates ----------- April 1, 2010, -------2,695,652 ------------ 2,095,517
Population estimates, ---------- July 1, 2019, --------2,693,976 ----------- 2,320,268
In another 4 or 5 years Chicago will be in Houston rear view mirror.
Population estimates ----------- April 1, 2010, -------2,695,652 ------------ 2,095,517
Population estimates, ---------- July 1, 2019, --------2,693,976 ----------- 2,320,268
In another 4 or 5 years Chicago will be in Houston rear view mirror.
I would fall out of my chair if either DFW or Houston Metros become a 10,000,000 metro Like Chicago.Texas Metros wouldn't surpass L.A. in the next 100 years.
Why? DFW is nearing 8 million already. Another 2 million wouldn't make that much difference.
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July 1st 2019 and July 1st 2020 will be 2020 census ? The official 2020 numbers coming 2022 ?
April 1st 2020 will be Census numbers, released in April 2021.
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