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View Poll Results: Preferable State: Kansas or Mississippi
I'd prefer KANSAS 67 54.47%
I'd prefer MISSISSIPPI 24 19.51%
NEITHER, one 28 22.76%
BOTH, of them these states are alright with me 4 3.25%
Voters: 123. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 06-15-2021, 05:48 PM
 
Location: Washington, DC area
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No, But it Looks Pretty cool in this Video I guess
For its location, it's surprisingly green. Downtown has at least some density. The riverwalk is okay, but poorly maintained.

The main problem is there is just nobody there, especially sidewalks etc. It's just a desolate city on the ground with very few people. There are more kids on scooters "playing" than anything else.

You can find pockets of activity. The keeper of the plains on the river is neat and has a fire show every night I think. Old Town has a couple of blocks that are okay.

But for the most part, the city is pretty depressing. It's basically a big suburb in the middle of nowhere.
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Old 06-15-2021, 06:44 PM
 
Location: Shelby County, Tennessee
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For its location, it's surprisingly green. Downtown has at least some density. The riverwalk is okay, but poorly maintained.

The main problem is there is just nobody there, especially sidewalks etc. It's just a desolate city on the ground with very few people. There are more kids on scooters "playing" than anything else.

You can find pockets of activity. The keeper of the plains on the river is neat and has a fire show every night I think. Old Town has a couple of blocks that are okay.

But for the most part, the city is pretty depressing. It's basically a big suburb in the middle of nowhere.
Witchita or Jackson Mississippi
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Old 06-16-2021, 04:00 AM
 
Location: Germantown, Philadelphia
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For its location, it's surprisingly green. Downtown has at least some density. The riverwalk is okay, but poorly maintained.

The main problem is there is just nobody there, especially sidewalks etc. It's just a desolate city on the ground with very few people. There are more kids on scooters "playing" than anything else.

You can find pockets of activity. The keeper of the plains on the river is neat and has a fire show every night I think. Old Town has a couple of blocks that are okay.

But for the most part, the city is pretty depressing. It's basically a big suburb in the middle of nowhere.
After the drone video, a promotional video from the Wichita Downtown Development Corporation played on my computer. The video touted the rise in the city's downtown population, an increase in public events and creative-class-type activity, and the recycling and repurposing of several downtown buildings into either mixed-use residential/commercial or creative workspace.

(One of those buildings was the former home of The Wichita Eagle, the largest newspaper published in the state. [It and The Kansas City Star, the state's largest-circulating newspaper (and for many years the only one that circulated statewide) but published in Missouri, became corporate siblings when Knight-Ridder (the Eagle was part of the Ridder chain, the journalistically inferior half of Knight-Ridder) acquired the newspapers the Walt Disney Company had acquired when it bought Capital Cities/ABC, Inc.] It's now the headquarters of Cargill Protein, a division of Minneapolis-based Cargill, the largest privately-owned company in the country (and maybe the world). The tone of the Cargill news release announcing the new headquarters suggests it too was surprised to figure out that the future of that division lay in Wichita, where it had been for 38 years.)

It almost made you want to live in Wichita. But as I watched it, it struck me that just about every city bigger than an overgrown crossroads in the country is doing this now. Shoot, Kansas City has a similar organization, the Downtown Council of Kansas City.

But once outside downtown...does Wichita have anything like Westport, or the Country Club Plaza? Last I looked, it didn't.
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Old 06-16-2021, 04:05 AM
 
Location: Germantown, Philadelphia
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Witchita or Jackson Mississippi
He's talking about Wichita.

The city had an alt-weekly for a time in the 1990s called the Wichita CityPaper. It had put up a billboard over I-235 promoting itself with a row of multiethnic faces over which appeared this line:

"Face it. You're in Wichita."
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Old 06-16-2021, 05:39 AM
 
Location: Tupelo, Ms
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Didn't know Witchita had all This
https://youtu.be/i8Apxsx1aBo
This is Nice, completely underestimated Witchita
Nice downtown.
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Old 06-16-2021, 07:24 AM
 
Location: Shelby County, Tennessee
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He's talking about Wichita.

The city had an alt-weekly for a time in the 1990s called the Wichita CityPaper. It had put up a billboard over I-235 promoting itself with a row of multiethnic faces over which appeared this line:

"Face it. You're in Wichita."
No I meant Witchita VS Jackson, I should have clarified

Didn't expect that rundown of Witchita, lol
Well let's check out Topeka
https://youtu.be/mZRW91bytzE
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Old 06-16-2021, 07:33 AM
 
Location: Kansas City, MO
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For its location, it's surprisingly green. Downtown has at least some density. The riverwalk is okay, but poorly maintained.

The main problem is there is just nobody there, especially sidewalks etc. It's just a desolate city on the ground with very few people. There are more kids on scooters "playing" than anything else.

You can find pockets of activity. The keeper of the plains on the river is neat and has a fire show every night I think. Old Town has a couple of blocks that are okay.

But for the most part, the city is pretty depressing. It's basically a big suburb in the middle of nowhere.
Not quite true. Wichita has built it itself up nicely and started re-investing in its downtown Old Town area in the 1980's and has continued for the last 30+ years. It has many vibrant areas and in the last 10 or so years has added Intrust Arena and Exploration Center on the the Arkansas River. I was just there a month ago and the Riverwalk area is very nice and well maintained. There are also a lot of antique stores and cool, funky shops in Old Town and some very cool bars.

I know you hate everything Kansas, but quit passing around "mis-leading" information on a public forum just because you hate KS. Wichita is not perfect, but it is a nice city with 600k+ people and is considered the Air Capital of the World. Even after Boeing left, Cessna and Spirit AreoSystems still have a large presences.

And small tid-bits that most won't know about Wichita, but Pizza Hut and Whitecastle all started in Wichita. Coleman was also started in Wichita.
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Old 06-16-2021, 07:35 AM
 
Location: Shelby County, Tennessee
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No I meant Witchita VS Jackson, I should have clarified

Didn't expect that rundown of Witchita, lol
Well let's check out Topeka
https://youtu.be/mZRW91bytzE
Eh, hmm Just seems like a regular city nothing too special, Pretty Capitol Building though, the streets where pretty desolate


I Wanted to find one on Overland Park and Kansas City KANSAS, all in Johnson County (the big county everyone's been talking about) but they're all overshadowed by Kansas City, MO in the videos

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Old 06-16-2021, 08:07 AM
 
Location: Washington, DC area
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Not quite true. Wichita has built it itself up nicely and started re-investing in its downtown Old Town area in the 1980's and has continued for the last 30+ years. It has many vibrant areas and in the last 10 or so years has added Intrust Arena and Exploration Center on the the Arkansas River. I was just there a month ago and the Riverwalk area is very nice and well maintained. There are also a lot of antique stores and cool, funky shops in Old Town and some very cool bars.

I know you hate everything Kansas, but quit passing around "mis-leading" information on a public forum just because you hate KS. Wichita is not perfect, but it is a nice city with 600k+ people and is considered the Air Capital of the World. Even after Boeing left, Cessna and Spirit AreoSystems still have a large presences.

And small tid-bits that most won't know about Wichita, but Pizza Hut and Whitecastle all started in Wichita. Coleman was also started in Wichita.
I have been to Wichita recently and you are exaggerating it. Last time I was there the new baseball stadium was under construction so maybe that will improve things, but come on. It's not that great of a city. It's not terrible, but it's not great either.

Wichita is by far the best thing in Kansas as far as urban areas go. I mean Topeka and KCK are both terrible as far as being nice urban places, but the Kansas side of the KC area is much larger and a more desirable place to live than Wichita even though its suburban.

Wichita is an okay small city, but downtown is relatively dead most of the time. It's all relative I guess. For the location, Wichita is one of the only cities around, so not a lot to compare it to.
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Old 06-16-2021, 08:15 AM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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Hoooh boy, not touching this one

Neither and I'll leave it a that
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