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Farming makes money, a lot of it. Wind and solar generate a decent chunk of income too. And Kansas is not the preferred state to hang out in if you're just chillin collecting a check cause it's cold and windy, so there's not a lot of deadbeats in trailers.
I think Mississippi has better scenery and more public land than people give it credit for, being in such a long growing season area is a definite plus, though weather wise it seems to be as bad as Kansas for tornadoes, big storms, and hurricane potential. Alabama, Arkansas, and Georgia are better situated for weather in this regard.
In a nutshell, I think Mississippi is an example of a good piece of American real estate that flopped below its potential due to attitudes and governance of it's people while Kansas is a showpiece of a not very desirable piece of land being developed into something pretty great!
That being said, I think from 2021 onward, both have potential. Kansas just has to keep doing what it's doing. I think all the plains states are doing a pretty good job of making cities that are planned for good space efficiency and have above average downtowns. If Mississippi can make the town and city life decent, people will jump on it because of the real estate and weather, like they have for other southern states.
I'd agree with a lot of this, though all those southern states are all pretty much the same concerning weather in my book.
Kansas not having hurricanes and generally less oppressive humidity makes it a win in that regard.
Plains states have better-built cities and towns, but Mississippi has potential. Perhaps it's the underdog thing, but I tend to root for it.
Southaven seems to be an extension of Whitehaven, Memphis in the same way that the first Johnson County, KS suburbs were originally an extension of KCMO's Country Club District across State Line Road into Kansas.
There seems to be some confusion concerning this relative to the fact that Madison county is like JOCO in terms of wealth, but Desoto county is like JOCO in terms of it's relation to a major city in another state.
So both are true.
Then again in the view of some... I'm likely perceived as one of those people who "huff and puff pretending I know all about Mississippi"....
In a nutshell, I think Mississippi is an example of a good piece of American real estate that flopped below its potential due to attitudes and governance of it's people while Kansas is a showpiece of a not very desirable piece of land being developed into something pretty great!
That being said, I think from 2021 onward, both have potential. Kansas just has to keep doing what it's doing. I think all the plains states are doing a pretty good job of making cities that are planned for good space efficiency and have above average downtowns. If Mississippi can make the town and city life decent, people will jump on it because of the real estate and weather, like they have for other southern states.
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My mother (b. Omaha 1931; raised in the Northeast Kansas town of Horton, where she graduated from high school in 1948; University of Kansas BSN 1954, MSN 1970, first Black woman to receive both degrees from the school) explained how Kansas got settled this way:
"You never heard any of those pioneers on the trails say, 'We're going to Kansas to find our fortune!' They were headed to Oregon, California or New Mexico. Kansas was where the wagons broke down en route."
And this makes a perfect introduction (explanation?) for the state motto:
Ad Astra per Aspera — To the Stars through Difficulties
There seems to be some confusion concerning this relative to the fact that Madison county is like JOCO in terms of wealth, but Desoto county is like JOCO in terms of it's relation to a major city in another state.
So both are true.
Then again in the view of some... I'm likely perceived as one of those people who "huff and puff pretending I know all about Mississippi"....
So I could be wrong.
The wealthiest parts of Desoto would include a few neighborhoods of Olive Branch plus the Lewisburg/Cedarview area (unincorporated, but I think portions were actually just annexed by Olive Branch a few days ago). Probably can throw in the Nesbit area as well. But overall, Desoto county is essentially an extention of Memphis. Especially in Horn Lake, Southaven, and sections of Olive Branch, where some of the crime carries over as well.
The wealthiest parts of Desoto would include a few neighborhoods of Olive Branch plus the Lewisburg/Cedarview area (unincorporated, but I think portions were actually just annexed by Olive Branch a few days ago). Probably can throw in the Nesbit area as well. But overall, Desoto county is essentially an extention of Memphis. Especially in Horn Lake, Southaven, and sections of Olive Branch, where some of the crime carries over as well.
Yelp I'm Surprised it happened, (Olive Branch annexation) since it made news that many opposed it, residents and some in DeSoto county government...But it did.
DeSoto County is an absolute beast in Growth terms by *Mississippi* Standards...Olive Branch just doubled Southaven is nearing to becoming 2nd largest city in Mississippi. In the Coming decades Mississippi's largest cities will be desoto county memphis suburbs
I Agree about the extension part, A Visitor to Memphis who ventures into DeSoto County and was on their Phone and happen to Miss the "Welcome to Mississippi" Magnolia State Sign would still think they're in Memphis
DeSoto is fast growing also Lafeyette County where College town Oxford is , is also fast growing and if it keeps growing and Spilling over into the Memphis arra they may merge to form a CSA one day down the line....and then you have Tunica 45 minutes from Memphis which Just Announced it's turning one of it's former Casinos into a Water Theme park https://www.fox13memphis.com/news/lo...FKSF7IXWNQW2M/ which would in fact give the Memphis Metro a brand new Theme Park , All of that in North Mississippi
With the Coast not Taking off it would be smart strategy for Mississippi to focus it's Strategy on it's Northern corridor near Memphis DeSoto Oxford Tunica, Call it NoMs Mississippi's version of Nova(dmv metro area) lol, as essentially this is Mississippi's only Urban Option, since nola(mardi gras) is too far away from Mississippi's actual border and Jackson isn't entering the Big Leagues anytime soon
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MS wins if we are only talking about KS and ignoring the fact that most of the population of KS is near the Missouri border for a reason. That's where they go for culture, entertainment, sports even to catch a flight.
If comparing states as if you could never leave KS or MS, then MS wins. There is just nothing in Kansas except suburban Johnson County. At least MS has beaches.
MS wins if we are only talking about KS and ignoring the fact that most of the population of KS is near the Missouri border for a reason. That's where they go for culture, entertainment, sports even to catch a flight.
If comparing states as if you could never leave KS or MS, then MS wins. There is just nothing in Kansas except suburban Johnson County. At least MS has beaches.
Both states suck though.
Most of the best parts of Mississippi are near the Louisiana and Alabama borders as well as Tennessee. Nowhere near the level of Kansas but Jackson has little desirability and the "best" areas are either north or south.
I'd agree with a lot of this, though all those southern states are all pretty much the same concerning weather in my book.
Kansas not having hurricanes and generally less oppressive humidity makes it a win in that regard.
Plains states have better-built cities and towns, but Mississippi has potential. Perhaps it's the underdog thing, but I tend to root for it.
Hot weather can be yucky just like wind is, but the hail alley aspect of western KS is as much a problem as tornadoes in my book, as hail reliably smashes some section of this part of the country every year. People love to brush off both states though!
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My mother (b. Omaha 1931; raised in the Northeast Kansas town of Horton, where she graduated from high school in 1948; University of Kansas BSN 1954, MSN 1970, first Black woman to receive both degrees from the school) explained how Kansas got settled this way:
"You never heard any of those pioneers on the trails say, 'We're going to Kansas to find our fortune!' They were headed to Oregon, California or New Mexico. Kansas was where the wagons broke down en route."
And this makes a perfect introduction (explanation?) for the state motto:
Ad Astra per Aspera — To the Stars through Difficulties
Exactly!! The plains were kind of an afterthought, then a boom and bust, then just a sustained boom that happened once people figured out the tech of how to develop the land. A showcase of ingenuity!
Same thing with the Rockies, before modern technology and the ability to ship things from other places, it's a hard place to live purely off the land.
MS wins if we are only talking about KS and ignoring the fact that most of the population of KS is near the Missouri border for a reason. That's where they go for culture, entertainment, sports even to catch a flight.
If comparing states as if you could never leave KS or MS, then MS wins. There is just nothing in Kansas except suburban Johnson County. At least MS has beaches.
Both states suck though.
Why doesn't Wichita count for something? Because it's too little compared to Kansas City, MO?
Yelp I'm Surprised it happened, (Olive Branch annexation) since it made news that many opposed it, residents and some in DeSoto county government...But it did.
DeSoto County is an absolute beast in Growth terms by *Mississippi* Standards...Olive Branch just doubled Southaven is nearing to becoming 2nd largest city in Mississippi. In the Coming decades Mississippi's largest cities will be desoto county memphis suburbs
I Agree about the extension part, A Visitor to Memphis who ventures into DeSoto County and was on their Phone and happen to Miss the "Welcome to Mississippi" Magnolia State Sign would still think they're in Memphis
DeSoto is fast growing also Lafeyette County where College town Oxford is , is also fast growing and if it keeps growing and Spilling over into the Memphis arra they may merge to form a CSA one day down the line....and then you have Tunica 45 minutes from Memphis which Just Announced it's turning one of it's former Casinos into a Water Theme park https://www.fox13memphis.com/news/lo...FKSF7IXWNQW2M/ which would in fact give the Memphis Metro a brand new Theme Park , All of that in North Mississippi
With the Coast not Taking off it would be smart strategy for Mississippi to focus it's Strategy on it's Northern corridor near Memphis DeSoto Oxford Tunica, Call it NoMs Mississippi's version of Nova(dmv metro area) lol, as essentially this is Mississippi's only Urban Option, since nola(mardi gras) is too far away from Mississippi's actual border and Jackson isn't entering the Big Leagues anytime soon
DeSoto county was absolute beast in growth rate during the 90s & early 00s. Back then it was recognized not just by "Mississippi" standards but *National * standards. Southaven is the 3rd largest while Olive Branch is 7th in the state. That immense growth rate of the past have subsided and those cities will probably have the same positions within the next decade(s).
Oxford/Lafayette growth is moderate and i doubt they'll ever won't to be associated with Memphis area. Cool on the water theme park in the delta.
The Coast is actually striding along well with a higher chance of Gulfport ( 2nd biggest in the state) being the next city to reach 100K within the coming decades. As long there's no major catastrophe similar to Katrina. The state's aquarium and future developments in Biloxi continues to appeal for the coast. Located in between both Mardi Gras ( Mobile & N.O) and it's own unique festivals, the costal region is 1 of 3 major urban options in state. Jackson is in it's own league per say since it's the largest urban area within the state.
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