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Where in the world are you getting 24K?!?! Try over 730,000. The Hispanic population grew by 183,000 just since 2010. And you need to check your tourism numbers, Atlanta was 45 million in 2019.
Well, per the 2019 census estimates, for the city of Atlanta, 4.3% of the population is Hispanic. Back of the napkin math, that's ~22k.
Chicago, per the census, is 29% Hispanic. Back of the napkin math, that's ~800k.
I can assume you're using MSA statistics here? I'm not. And I know you have spent enough time in Chicago, as I have Atlanta, to see the very very clear difference in Hispanic population and influence.
As for tourism, I didn't give any numbers... So I don't know what you want me to recheck? That said, I can't find any set of data that would say Atlanta sees more domestic or International tourism than Chicago (Tourism numbers are slippery, that's for sure).
Ok, this is how I ordered my list. Go to a random person in another country and ask them to name some US cities they know or whether they are familiar with a certain city, I think the order would go like this:
NYC
LA
DC
SF
Chi
Mia
Det
Sea
Bos
Dal
Hou
Atl
Philly
SD
We're going off largest metros right? If we include medium sized I do think Vegas would be pretty high. Remember, this is off of name recognition. We're not talking about coolest, most walkable, hippest, fastest growing, most expensive, etc.
I can agree with the others but definitely not Seattle. Atlanta is at least on equal footing due to things like the Olympics and current pop culture imo.
I just think Tech is rising, maybe I'm biased. How many people know that st. Louis, Montreal and Melbourne hosted the games?
Look, no one is saying Chicago is irrelevant. Good Times is one of my favorite shows. Cabrini Green probably doesn’t have as much noteriety as Bankhead, but it is an iconic black hood— it’s a shame that we do this anyway. Also, Obama reps Chicago. I get all of that.
He had his huge album release parties at Mercedes Benz. And finished his album in the basement of the stadium. It don’t get more Atlanta than that. This was widely reported on.
So after that long hiatus, he comes back to his first home to give it shine on his highly anticipated album named after his mom. Atlanta got way more spotlight off of Donda than Chicago. Crazy huh?
I will agree on the sports. Jordan is the largest sports (as a single athlete) brand of all time. The Bulls will never be forgotten. Atlanta doesn’t come close here, the closest is Hank Aaron and the Braves. And that still isn’t super close to me. Do you see how I’m willing to admit facts when they are obvious?
But as far as food, Chicago has high end eateries we don’t have. But that doesn’t translate into popularity when only 1% of ppl can afford it.
Chicago does have common man food scene that exceeds Atlanta… maybe. We have Chicago based wings here at JJs and Harold’s. But lemon pepper and Waffle House probably has more pop culture references than those places. But I would edge out Chicago on the deep dish thing.
None this equates to what Atlanta is doing in film and music right now and you knowit . And what makes us unique is that our celebrities stay home more likely than not. So Atlanta functions more like an LA or NY in that light. Kanye and Dwayne Wade bring more spotlight to LA than Chicago because they live there.
Like I said how you rank them depends on what you choose to emphasize, but Chicago present day isnt as culturallly iconic as Atlanta.
Wow. Like talking to a brick wall. Everyone is entitled to their opinions, and your measuring stick is far different than most.
Wow. Like talking to a brick wall. Everyone is entitled to their opinions, and your measuring stick is far different than most.
Sure. The amount of reps I’ve accumulated in this thread says otherwise. Nothing in that post is unreasonable. I’m really tired of correcting logical missteps and comprehension. Atlanta is going to keep dominating culture for the foreseeable future no matter how mad it makes certain posters on here.
Well, per the 2019 census estimates, for the city of Atlanta, 4.3% of the population is Hispanic. Back of the napkin math, that's ~22k.
Chicago, per the census, is 29% Hispanic. Back of the napkin math, that's ~800k.
I can assume you're using MSA statistics here? I'm not. And I know you have spent enough time in Chicago, as I have Atlanta, to see the very very clear difference in Hispanic population and influence.
As for tourism, I didn't give any numbers... So I don't know what you want me to recheck? That said, I can't find any set of data that would say Atlanta sees more domestic or International tourism than Chicago (Tourism numbers are slippery, that's for sure).
So where am I off?
Because Atlanta isn’t situated in a way where most ethnic enclaves settled in the city. It’s not apples to apples because of how the cities were formed. Not even 5 percent of our Hispanic community stays in the city limits, so that’s where you went wrong.
Sure. The amount of reps I’ve accumulated in this thread says otherwise. Nothing in that post is unreasonable. I’m really tired of correcting logical missteps and comprehension. Atlanta is going to keep dominating culture for the foreseeable future no matter how mad it makes certain posters on here.
Sure. The amount of reps I’ve accumulated in this thread says otherwise. Nothing in that post is unreasonable. I’m really tired of correcting logical missteps and comprehension. Atlanta is going to keep dominating culture for the foreseeable future no matter how mad it makes certain posters on here.
Atlanta doesn’t dominate culture now. Only if you view culture in a very narrow sense does that compute.
Atlanta doesn’t dominate culture now. Only if you view culture in a very narrow sense does that compute.
A niche view.
I don’t know anyone from Atlanta that is famous except Tyler Perry. I’m sure I know people from Atlanta who are famous and maybe some hip hop artist come out of there but that feels more like a “fun fact” or trivia question of where someone was born.
Atlanta doesn’t have even a fraction of the name brand recognition/association to an entertainment genre such as Nashville to country, New Orleans to Jazz, LA/Hollywood is to entertainment in general and even Brooklyn/Bronx/Harlem (which will surely draw the ire of some Atlanta folk) to rap/hip hop & similar genres.
Even if Atlanta has all of these artist coming from it. ATL isn’t breaking through a universal association with whatever music genre of artist are from there. If you have to explain it, if you have to give facts, then obviously there is some recognition problem.
I think that’s the whole point of “name recognition”.... you don’t have to explain LA, Nashville, DC, NYC, Miami, Vegas, etc for people to know their ties to entertainment, country music, politics, finance, latin culture, gambling (among other things.) I don’t think that’s a huge deal or Atlanta needs to be associated with something to be a well known large city. I can’t really think of something strongly associated with Denver, Minneapolis, Philadelphia or several other prominent/well-known cities.
I don’t know anyone from Atlanta that is famous except Tyler Perry. I’m sure I know people from Atlanta who are famous and maybe some hip hop artist come out of there but that feels more like a “fun fact” or trivia question of where someone was born.
Atlanta doesn’t have even a fraction of the name brand recognition/association to an entertainment genre such as Nashville to country, New Orleans to Jazz, LA/Hollywood is to entertainment in general and even Brooklyn/Bronx/Harlem (which will surely draw the ire of some Atlanta folk) to rap/hip hop & similar genres.
Even if Atlanta has all of these artist coming from it. ATL isn’t breaking through a universal association with whatever music genre of artist are from there. If you have to explain it, if you have to give facts, then obviously there is some recognition problem.
I think that’s the whole point of “name recognition”.... you don’t have to explain LA, Nashville, DC, NYC, Miami, Vegas, etc for people to know their ties to entertainment, country music, politics, finance, latin culture, gambling (among other things.) I don’t think that’s a huge deal or Atlanta needs to be associated with something to be a well known large city. I can’t really think of something strongly associated with Denver, Minneapolis, Philadelphia or several other prominent/well-known cities.
Lol at Atlanta doesnt have a universal association with any genre of music.
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