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Atlanta still hosts more events and conventions than Dallas. It's also the unofficial Fast Food Capital of the U.S. If I'm not mistaken, Atlanta houses more Fast Food HQs than anywhere in the U.S. Also, regarding culture, for better or worse, Atlanta is the cultural capital of Black America. It also houses too many cable networks and filming studios. There's nothing in Dallas that comes close.
Regarding the CDC, you might want to double check that info, Atlanta's the most progressive city in the U.S regarding Global Health. There's a Global Health HQ there and it's linked with Emory and a few more agencies. There's also a Bioparma Mega Center in the works. No knock on Dallas, but a zoo and a better loop isn't going to make it more influential than Atlanta when the latter offers more in the grand scheme of things.
What does Dallas have other than companies moving relocating there? It's an economical juggernaut, but lacks in the other categories compared to Houston, Atlanta, Philly, and Miami.
I Agree Atlanta Over Dallas in Everything Except Economics, Atlanta is a Cultural Beast. Can't see Dallas over Atlanta anywhere except economics and size, But Surely not Influence
Here’s what I’ll say. When the Patriots were trying to extort Massachusetts to pay for a New Stadium, it was Hartford, not Providence that got the shot at the team. When the Whalers left Boston, they moved to Hartford. Not Providence.
Providence is more artsy, it’s got an Ivy so it has cache. But when push comes to shove, Hartford is the 2nd city in New England.
I won’t challenge Providence having a remarkable little blight and crime considering its income profile. It’s a nicer city than Hartford but it’s not more important
People from Springfield or even New Haven go to a Hartford to see bigger acts or touring Broadway productions and such. While Providence that stuff goes to Boston. Hartford has a pull on places not in its metro area and is a center of its own wealth. While Providence is on Bostons periphery
You should create a separate poll.
Hartford may take economy but probably not much else.
Providence has brown, the number 1 design school in America (risd), a great culinary school (Johnson and wales), and other respected colleges.
Its city and metro population are larger than Hartford and the msa contains more regional destinations than Hartford like Newport or Narragansett. Also a better food scene overall
No one is deflating Atlanta. It's objectively in the same tier as Miami, Philadelphia, Seattle, Dallas and Houston. I'm not sure where you're getting the idea that it's in a tier with Chicago, lol. They all have relative strengths and weaknesses. The global metric posted by 18Montclair really affirms this.
Boston is also only a half-step up from that grouping, arguably, as well.
No one is deflating Atlanta. It's objectively in the same tier as Miami, Philadelphia, Seattle, Dallas and Houston. I'm not sure where you're getting the idea that it's in a tier with Chicago, lol. They all have relative strengths and weaknesses. The global metric posted by 18Montclair really affirms this.
Boston is also only a half-step up from that grouping, arguably, as well.
I think Boston/Houston/Dallas are in one tier and Seattle/Atlanta/Miami/Philly are a half step below
But people don’t like giving credit so Sunbelt cities and are not “urban enough”
Kind of like how people in those “most cosmopolitain city” people were really not ready to admit Houston was solidly like #3.
This isn't terrible but I have a few qualms. For one thing, I live in Raleigh and while I've grown to love the city, and it certainly is on the rise, I can't in good faith place it over the immediate 9 cities below it on the list...
They have Hampton Roads on their list, of which I am a huge Stan for Virginia Beach----->but it is simply not a more significant city within Virginia than Richmond, and it really isn't that close to it...
Raleigh-Durham is essentially a dual-core ~2 million MSA and its GDP is reflective of that. So in the economic areas that matter it absolutely belongs in the group it's in despite it not having the cultural stature.
Hampton Roads is absolutely more important to VA than Richmond is (in raw economics). It's MSA is almost 400k larger and thats reflected in it's $116 Billion GDP vs. Richmond's $93 Billion.
No one is deflating Atlanta. It's objectively in the same tier as Miami, Philadelphia, Seattle, Dallas and Houston. I'm not sure where you're getting the idea that it's in a tier with Chicago, lol. They all have relative strengths and weaknesses. The global metric posted by 18Montclair really affirms this.
Boston is also only a half-step up from that grouping, arguably, as well.
But people are also claiming that Dallas is 5th and 6th despite being near the bottom in every category minus economics (in its tier). It's only a big deal when someone ranks Atlanta 7th. Quite honestly, Atlanta's not in the same tier as Chicago, but it's certainly not lower than 8th if we're objectively looking at the OP's criteria.
I Agree Atlanta Over Dallas in Everything Except Economics, Atlanta is a Cultural Beast. Can't see Dallas over Atlanta anywhere except economics and size, But Surely not Influence
No one is deflating Atlanta. It's objectively in the same tier as Miami, Philadelphia, Seattle, Dallas and Houston. I'm not sure where you're getting the idea that it's in a tier with Chicago, lol. They all have relative strengths and weaknesses. The global metric posted by 18Montclair really affirms this.
Boston is also only a half-step up from that grouping, arguably, as well.
Raleigh-Durham is essentially a dual-core ~2 million MSA and its GDP is reflective of that. So in the economic areas that matter it absolutely belongs in the group it's in despite it not having the cultural stature.
Hampton Roads is absolutely more important to VA than Richmond is (in raw economics). It's MSA is almost 400k larger and thats reflected in it's $116 Billion GDP vs. Richmond's $93 Billion.
You have your way of viewing this, I have mine. My consideration of all of these places isn't simply based on one metric, so sure, if it was simply based on metro economy Triangle would belong with other places...
You'd instantly notice a contrast in scale and offerings if you go from Charlotte or Sacramento or Pittsburgh etc, and then to Raleigh. It's not there yet and it may be somewhat undervalued but it's not on that scale yet...
Richmond's total GDP is at $109.5B, about $6.5B short of the $116B in the dual-core Tidewater. This is reflective of more dynamism in Richmond and again I guess if you simply base how you relate cities on economics, that $6.5B gap outweighs everything to you. I put a large onus on economy, of which Richmond's is significantly more diverse and dynamic, but given economy isn't the sole criteria I go off of, it's not even close the cultural relevance or influence within the state between the two. Richmond is by a pretty good margin Virginia's #1 city. Virginia Beach/Norfolk is by a pretty good margin Virginia's #2 city, and after that there is no close #3. But the order is very much 1 Richmond, 2 Virginia Beach...
I do not think that’s accurate at all. There is no gap between Atlanta and the rest.
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