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Old 04-22-2009, 06:10 PM
 
Location: West Town, Chicago
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St. Louis...southern flavor? I disagree. Maybe a few Southern influences, but its flavor is overall Midwestern. Washington doesn't really have that kind of flavor to me. St. Louis has only one monument: The Arch. Washington has TONS of monuments. I think St. Louis is a lot more like Pittsburgh (river city) due to its industrial and manufacturing past and also Baltimore and I guess also D.C., if only because they are on similar latitudes. I've heard some people compare St. Louis to Boston on occasion. Chicago I would say is like New York and Philadelphia. Milwaukee and Detroit like Baltimore, Pittsburgh, and maybe Philadelphia. Minneapolis I think is most like Boston. Cleveland is a lot like Pittsburgh, Buffalo, Philadelphia, and Boston. Cincinnati is like Baltimore, Pittsburgh, and D.C. Columbus and Indianapolis really seem to be most like D.C., Pittsburgh, Philadelphia, and Baltimore. Kansas City to me is probably on par with Baltimore and Washington, D.C.

You know, I can really see the parallels between Indy and Washington. Interesting; I never thought of that before.
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Old 04-22-2009, 06:22 PM
 
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I saw this on here somewhere once before, but now I can't find it. It's a topic that fascinates me. Isn't it interesting how similar trends develop as history repeats itself, and new cities take on the role of old cities? Anyway, enough jibba jabba. For purposes of this thread, I am including Pittsburgh in the East Coast. Let's get this thing started:

Chicago............NYC (urban heart of the region)

St. Louis...........Washington (southern bookend, southern flavor, historical city, on a River, grand monuments)

Milwaukee..........Pittsburgh (as much as I want to say Milwaukee is like Boston, it has so much in common with Pittsburgh it's ridiculous)

Minneapolis........Philly (it's around, but kinda gets overlooked. Each of these is a hidden gem in the region)

Detroit..............Baltimore (decaying urbanization, rough and rampant crime)

What are your thoughts?
Des Moines,IA...............Hartford,CT (places known for insurance. Des Moines wasn't nicknamed "Hartford of the West" for nothing)
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Old 04-22-2009, 06:53 PM
 
Location: Villanova Pa.
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Yes it is:
Combined Statistical Areas of the United States of America
1 New York-Newark-Bridgeport, NY-NJ-CT-PA CSA NY-NJ-CT-PA 21,961,994 21,361,797
2 Los Angeles-Long Beach-Riverside, CA CSA CA 17,755,322 16,373,645
3 Chicago-Naperville-Michigan City, IL-IN-WI CSA IL-IN-WI 09,745,165 09,312,255
4 Washington-Baltimore-Northern Virginia, DC-MD-VA-WV CSA DC-MD-VA-WV 08,241,912 07,572,647
5 Boston-Worcester-Manchester, MA-RI-NH CSA MA-RI-NH 07,476,689 07,298,695
6 San Jose-San Francisco-Oakland, CA CSA CA 07,264,887 07,092,596
7 Dallas-Fort Worth, TX CSA TX 06,498,410 05,487,956
8 Philadelphia-Camden-Vineland, PA-NJ-DE-MD CSA PA-NJ-DE-MD 06,385,461 06,207,223
9 Houston-Baytown-Huntsville, TX CSA TX 05,729,027 04,815,122
10 Atlanta-Sandy Springs-Gainesville, GA-AL CSA GA-AL 05,626,400 04,548,344
11 Detroit-Warren-Flint, MI CSA MI 05,405,918 05,357,538
12 Seattle-Tacoma-Olympia, WA CSA WA 04,038,741 03,707,144
13 Minneapolis-St. Paul-St. Cloud, MN-WI CSA MN-WI 03,538,781 03,271,888
14 Denver-Aurora-Boulder, CO CSA CO 02,998,878 02,629,980
15 Cleveland-Akron-Elyria, OH CSA OH 02,896,968 02,945,831

Table of United States Combined Statistical Areas - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
^Combined^ metroes are what we thought they were. Combined. They're bogus, a sham, fraudulent. Its a marketing ploy for middle of the pack metroes to try and make themesleves relevant.

SF alone is a great metro but a minnow in a sea sharks so they brainstorm on how not to become tomorrows lunch, wahla they somehow manage to add another 5,000 sq milesof the Bay Area overnight to their metro and they become the 4th or 5th largest metro in the company.


Sorry gang The CSMA is a joke.
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Old 04-22-2009, 06:55 PM
 
Location: Philly
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Boston is the 5th largest Metro area in the country.
tomato is a fruit.
actually, DC is the fifth largest and Philadelphia the fourth. http://www.fcc.gov/cgb/NumberPortability/msas.html (broken link)
I'm not sure why that's relevant anyway

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Old 04-23-2009, 12:07 AM
 
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tomato is a fruit.
actually, DC is the fifth largest and Philadelphia the fourth. 100 Largest Metropolitan Statistical Areas (MSAs) (http://www.fcc.gov/cgb/NumberPortability/msas.html - broken link)
I'm not sure why that's relevant anyway
that list isn't right..L.A isn't first, it actually only has roughly 3 million people more than Chicago.

2000 Census

Chicago: 9,569,924
L.A: 12,872,808I've always been confused on how L.A adds over 4 million people to their CSA. They REALLY must be reaching to pass NYC
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Old 04-23-2009, 08:41 AM
 
Location: Philly
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that list isn't right..L.A isn't first, it actually only has roughly 3 million people more than Chicago.

2000 Census

Chicago: 9,569,924
L.A: 12,872,808I've always been confused on how L.A adds over 4 million people to their CSA. They REALLY must be reaching to pass NYC
I tend to wonder hwo any of them are compiled. DC grows, of course, when you include Baltimore and shrinks when you don't. MSA's seem to be more art than science.
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Old 05-11-2009, 08:49 PM
 
Location: West Town, Chicago
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I tend to wonder hwo any of them are compiled. DC grows, of course, when you include Baltimore and shrinks when you don't. MSA's seem to be more art than science.
Interesting. I read somewhere that the true measure of a metropolitan area is by "urbanized areas." For example, Harrisburg's MSA is around 600,000 people. Yes less than 400,000 people live in "urbanized" areas within that zone. Does this make sense?
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Old 05-11-2009, 09:44 PM
 
Location: St. Louis, MO
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St. Louis I would match either to Pittsburgh or Baltimore. Cleveland = Pittsburgh and Buffalo. Detroit=Philadelphia. Chicago=New York. The Twin Cities=Boston. Milwaukee I'd probably compare to Pittsburgh.
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Old 05-11-2009, 10:59 PM
 
Location: West Town, Chicago
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St. Louis I would match either to Pittsburgh or Baltimore. Cleveland = Pittsburgh and Buffalo. Detroit=Philadelphia. Chicago=New York. The Twin Cities=Boston. Milwaukee I'd probably compare to Pittsburgh.
Totally... you are dead on! That is nearly exactly what I picked.
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Old 05-11-2009, 11:40 PM
 
Location: Chicago - mudhole in the prairie...
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St. Louis I would match either to Pittsburgh or Baltimore. Cleveland = Pittsburgh and Buffalo. Detroit=Philadelphia. Chicago=New York. The Twin Cities=Boston. Milwaukee I'd probably compare to Pittsburgh.
Please do not compare Chicago to New York. That's offensive.
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