What are the celebrity-centric cities (After L.A)? (best, expensive, nightlife)

[personone]

Originally Posted by Joakim3

Adele & Ed Sheeran are without a question larger than her. They outsell her in the US let alone on a global/international scale.

I agree they don’t have to be qualified as “black celebrities” as that context is only used when Atlanta is brought up. Celebrities are celebrities whether they are AA, White, Indian, Asian, Latin, etc..

How are you measuring this. I don’t think it’s an absolute truth that Adele or Ed Sheeran “are without a question larger than” Beyoncé if we’re talking about overall celebrity. If you are talking about music sales, maybe, but I view celebrity as more of a “brand.”

A crude way to look at this is Instagram followers. Beyoncé has almost 275 million compared to Ed Sheeran and Adele having 40-50 million each. So Beyoncé has over 5 times as many followers as them combined.

Again, this is a crude measure, but in terms of overall celebrity (not strictly sales), I would place Beyoncé above both Adele and Ed Sheeran. Beyoncé has held #1 spots in China over long stretches, which is a big plus for her global brand.

[goat314]

Originally Posted by Joakim3

Atlanta in the same ballpark as Miami, NYC or LA? Not even remotely.

They are global iconic meccas of wealth and status that attract celebrities on global scale from every corner of industry. Atlanta does not and that’s objectively fair.

It doesn’t make Atlanta lesser and it’s not “telling on oneself”. Does Atlanta have widespread national appeal and pull to all races? Unequivocally. But its not to the same scale on a national level let alone international whether we are included AA influence or not.

Atlanta has a much more developed economy than Miami. Miami is actually a relatively poor and uneducated city outside the tourist zone.

[Bitey]

Originally Posted by Jeslac

Chicago, Houston, New York City, Nashville, Miami, Atlanta, Las Vegas

Originally Posted by g500

NYC
Chicago
Las Vegas
Miami
Atlanta
New Orleans
Nashville
Honolulu?

I don't consider Chicago particularly celebrity-centric at all. We've certainly produced our share of celebrities but they usually leave for one New York or LA once they strike it big, maybe keeping a condo here so they can come "home" a couple times a year. In fact I've heard a couple celebrities remark they like visiting Chicago because they can walk around and enjoy the city without getting mobbed by fans wherever they go.

[Bluefox]

Originally Posted by projectmaximus

Based on the OP I was viewing this as essentially where do celebs orbit and where are you likely to see them. They don't have to live there. They just have to frequent there, whether for work or vacation. This viewpoint boosts Vancouver, Atlanta, Vegas, and Miami in my personal rankings. If you're answering where do they live most of the time then of course your rankings are different.

I still think only a small fraction of the celebrities in places like LA and NYC ever visit Vegas on a regular or even infrequent basis. I would imagine most of them, like most of us, don’t find Vegas to be particularly appealing. And if they don’t NEED to be there, why would they go? I would say this is even more true for a higher level celebrity where the world is their oyster.

But of course, many celebrities do like Vegas and all it has to offer. I’ll also say that Vegas is very celebrity-focused as part of its tourism industry, but it’s also a lot of smoke and mirrors, much like Vegas itself.

Edited to add: But - maybe this is the “celebrity culture” the OP is referring to, as manufactured and processed as it may be.

[Joakim3]

Originally Posted by goat314

Atlanta has a much more developed economy than Miami. Miami is actually a relatively poor and uneducated city outside the tourist zone.

I’m aware Atlanta has a much more developed and robust economy.

[CCrest182]

Originally Posted by personone

How are you measuring this. I don’t think it’s an absolute truth that Adele or Ed Sheeran “are without a question larger than” Beyoncé if we’re talking about overall celebrity. If you are talking about music sales, maybe, but I view celebrity as more of a “brand.”

A crude way to look at this is Instagram followers. Beyoncé has almost 275 million compared to Ed Sheeran and Adele having 40-50 million each. So Beyoncé has over 5 times as many followers as them combined.

Again, this is a crude measure, but in terms of overall celebrity (not strictly sales), I would place Beyoncé above both Adele and Ed Sheeran. Beyoncé has held #1 spots in China over long stretches, which is a big plus for her global brand.

If Twitter followers are any barometer (I'd say it is), Adele (27.6M) has 12 million more followers than Beyonce (15.6M). That's nearly double as many.

Ed Sheeran has 2 million more followers than Beyonce, so not quite as big a gap, but still more.

Saying Beyonce is a bigger celebrity is really just an Americanized perspective of things. On a global scale Adele is far more famous than Beyonce, and Ed Sheeran is a bit larger too.

[CCrest182]

Originally Posted by Bitey

I don't consider Chicago particularly celebrity-centric at all. We've certainly produced our share of celebrities but they usually leave for one New York or LA once they strike it big, maybe keeping a condo here so they can come "home" a couple times a year. In fact I've heard a couple celebrities remark they like visiting Chicago because they can walk around and enjoy the city without getting mobbed by fans wherever they go.

I think Chicago was more celebrity centric in the 80's and 90's than it is now, thanks to Oprah at one point living there and producing her show there, Michael Jordan/Scottie Pippen/Dennis Rodman Bulls, Jerry Springer was filmed there, R Kelly, and a few more. But I would have to agree Chicago has fallen quite a bit in terms of being a celebrity city, though there are a few celebrities who still have rep Chicago a lot. Bill Murray, Chance the Rapper, Kanye West, to some extent Obama. Most of the celebrities do have local ties of course.

[elchevere]

Originally Posted by goat314

Atlanta has a much more developed economy than Miami. Miami is actually a relatively poor and uneducated city outside the tourist zone.

That’s actually an uneducated comment by you regarding Miami and/or you don't know much about it. Not sure what that has to do with celebrity appeal either. You seem to have Miami confused with Tijuana.

Most celebrities, including athletes, live in areas such as Cocoplum, Gables Estates, Coconut Grove, Star Island, Venetian Islands, Palm Island, Sunset Islands, Key Biscayne, Fisher Island, Indian Creek, La Gorce, etc etc—hardly part of the "tourist zone' (Ocean Drive??) and what I would call poor or a few pockets….celebs aren’t moving to Homestead just as they don’t move to Chamblee...celebs also tend to like bling which Miami offers more of (more exclusive real estate, yachts, more exclusive high end brand shopping standalone boutiques, more celeb see and be seen restaurants and clubs, etc)....plenty of visiting celebs for annual global appeal events such as Art Basel, Formula 1, Ultra, SoBe Wine & Food Festival, Miami Open, International Boat Show, etc etc throughout the county.

[personone]

Originally Posted by CCrest182

If Twitter followers are any barometer (I'd say it is), Adele (27.6M) has 12 million more followers than Beyonce (15.6M). That's nearly double as many.

Ed Sheeran has 2 million more followers than Beyonce, so not quite as big a gap, but still more.

Saying Beyonce is a bigger celebrity is really just an Americanized perspective of things. On a global scale Adele is far more famous than Beyonce, and Ed Sheeran is a bit larger too.

I think Instagram is more of a barometer of popularity than Twitter, Beyoncé with 273 million followers, which is almost 5x what Adele has (Twitter is more of a news and discord/debate platform, vs Instagram which is used to follow a “celebrity’s life” through pictures)

How are you measuring that Adele is more popular on a global scale? What numbers are you using?

My initial post was just to say that I can see how Adele may be bigger on some levels, but I don’t think I would say she is “without a question larger” or “far more famous” than Beyoncé. I’d say they are in the same level. I’m not sure how it’s an “Americanized” perspective to think that Beyoncé is on the same level as Adele. Again, the Instagram followers would show that.

[elchevere]

Btw, I assume athletes count as celebrities….Not a surprise but Ronaldo and Messi dwarf Lebron (even the singers mentioned) on Instagram to point out Americanization as measured by followers.