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Originally Posted by BergenCountyJohnny
Where did I "bash" any place?
Correct, I'm not a New Yorker. I'm a New Jerseyan. That doesn't make me any less friendly, hard working, or proud American, however; it's ignorance and stupidity to suggest as much.
Actually I should apologize for the proud American thing. It's not up to me to say that about you, since I don't really know you, but what I meant and what you thought I meant were completely different. So I do apologize for the misconception. Vocalization of my thoughts is a barrier for me.
Florida, but new jersey is nice. I just dont get how they stay one of the richest, safest, and healthiest states when all their major cities are poor and dangerous and they have 96 toxic waste facilities
Actually I should apologize for the proud American thing. It's not up to me to say that about you, since I don't really know you, but what I meant and what you thought I meant were completely different. So I do apologize for the misconception. Vocalization of my thoughts is a barrier for me.
I appreciate you apologizing, it speaks well for you.... don't sweat it.
If this were NY vs. Florida, it would be a different story, but I'm going with Florida on this one. I feel like NJ is much less of a regional center. While NJ has NYC nearby, the state itself lacks a large city to define it.
I think it does. The intro with all the industrial sections, meadowlands, and NYC skyline is a small blip of the state, but as it nears the end of the intro it shows the blue collar towns which seem to look a lot like Lyndhurst, Belleville, or Bloomfield even. When it ends, Tony pulls into his mansion in a leafy cultasack neighborhood in West Caldwell (Or north?)
The show itself portrays NJ pretty well despite all the mob activity. They even give you an idea what Newark once was pre-riots. I love watching the series, it shows the pretties, the uglies, and the culture of NJ (NNJ atleast). Plus, the acting and storyline is top-notch
It MAY show one tiny portion of the state accurately, and the mob subculture, which is almost nonexistant now anyhow. It does NOT give an image of the entire state of NJ.
It made EVERYBODY look like thugs, from obviously the mobsters themselves, to college kids, to financiers that were "working" with Christopher. People who watched the show got a false impression.
FYI I was a huge fan of the show, I was just not a fan of how it falsely portrayed NJ.
I don't really care for either FL or NJ, but isn't NJ a heavily suburban state, which by the way gives NJ the upper hand since suburbs are usually the higher income and better educated areas of a state.
Although FL is mainly an urban state, most of the state does not reside in suburbs. FL is a little more balanced because there are large cities, medium sized cities, and small towns in between.
I lived in SW FL several years ago and it was not "bland, cultureless, suburban."
Thats about as ignorant as saying NJ is a large gritty urban cesspool. Both of these stereotypes have no merit.
Florida, but new jersey is nice. I just dont get how they stay one of the richest, safest, and healthiest states when all their major cities are poor and dangerous and they have 96 toxic waste facilities
This is the huge misconception of NJ. NJ's "major cities" (FYI there are no "major" cities) make up a TINY portion of NJ's population. This is very different than in other states. 80% of NJ's residents live in true suburban environments.
NJ is a giant suburb of New York City, and of Philadelphia. A lot of people outside of the area have a really hard time understanding this concept, because the metro areas of Philadelphia and NYC span multiple states, which is fairly rare.
Northern NJ, for example, is a HUGE (about 60%) of NYC's market! It's the suburbs of NYC, just like Evanston is the suburbs of Chicago. We grew up "going into the city" (NYC) just like the people in the NY State suburbs "went into the city". It's all the same sh*t. Same with the Connecticut suburbs. It's their city, too.
The more I travel (and read these forums) the more I notice that people from other parts of the country have a very, very difficult time understanding this.
This is the huge misconception of NJ. NJ's "major cities" (FYI there are no "major" cities) make up a TINY portion of NJ's population. This is very different than in other states. 80% of NJ's residents live in true suburban environments.
NJ is a giant suburb of New York City, and of Philadelphia. A lot of people outside of the area have a really hard time understanding this concept, because the metro areas of Philadelphia and NYC span multiple states, which is fairly rare.
Northern NJ, for example, is a HUGE (about 60%) of NYC's market! It's the suburbs of NYC, just like Evanston is the suburbs of Chicago. We grew up "going into the city" (NYC) just like the people in the NY State suburbs "went into the city". It's all the same sh*t. Same with the Connecticut suburbs. It's their city, too.
The more I travel (and read these forums) the more I notice that people from other parts of the country have a very, very difficult time understanding this.
How does that fact that people in NJ go to NYC, have anything to do with the post you were responding to. He was just saying he doesn't understand how ppl say NJ is one of the safest richest states when there are so many outdated run down areas that are dangerous, and the reason why salaries are so high is becuase the cost of living is so high. NJ has nice suburbs and it's in close proximity to nyc and Philly, that's about it.
How does that fact that people in NJ go to NYC, have anything to do with the post you were responding to. He was just saying he doesn't understand how ppl say NJ is one of the safest richest states when there are so many outdated run down areas that are dangerous, and the reason why salaries are so high is becuase the cost of living is so high. NJ has nice suburbs and it's in close proximity to nyc and Philly, that's about it.
Except that's not it. NJ also has 120 miles of the most-visited beaches on the East Coast.
And hundreds of thousands of acres of farms where the whole country gets a lot of it's produce from. This is the Garden State. That wasn't a joke, when we named it that.
It's not all suburbs.
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