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Originally Posted by rnc2mbfl
Raise your hand if you haven't overstated your projections in this thread........no hands??? That's what I thought.
I have yet to post my projections on this thread. I want to give it some more thought before doing so. I do not want to make a bad guess.
So I am raising my hand.
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Originally Posted by HtownLove
Yes it is the metro that added 180K. That is why I said that would push it passed 6M.
The city fluctuates on its adds from the 30's to the 50s
and yes, I think it only added 140K last year
6 million is an easy feat from where it is right now. That is true. If it adds 140,000 minimum or even 110,000 minimum each year to the metropolitan area then if June 2009 estimates put it at 5.9 million, by June 2010 it would be nearing or above 6 million for sure.
I think end result at the highest would be 6,030,000 or so.
I'm not certain about the metro area, but it's almost an absolute certainty that Columbus' population
will be just under the 800,000 mark, or could potentially eclipse it by a small margin. In 2008, the population indicated 775,000 inhabitants ( most estimates ) within the cities borders. There's been a large influx of people that have relocated from more economically distressed areas, furthering growth in the city proper.
Charlotte city proper: 760,000
MSA pop: 1,970,0000
CSA pop: 2,700,000
Iredell County (pop: 170,000) will be added back to Charlotte MSA and give it a total pop of almost 2 mil.
I strongly doubt the 760k for the city. Probably 740k at the best, and even that I don't see. I give Charlotte 720-730k.
As far as the MSA I've been hearing rumors that Cleveland, and now from you Iredell county will be added to the Charlotte MSA. If that's so, then I think your MSA projection could be right. Otherwise I see it at 1.8million at the absolute highest.
With the CSA, I have not heard any new counties being added but perhaps your 2.7 may not be off, although I think 2.5 may be more accurate.
Does anyone know if new counties are being added to MSAs/CSAs?
I know that people are moving out of michigan rapidly and esp. places like Flint and Detroit, but I highly doubt Detroit has lost 150,000 plus since the 2008 estimate.
I would say city proper will be somewhere in the area of 820,000 to 880,000.
Agreed
For the other City of my Michigan roots:
Grand Rapids:
City: 198,000
MSA: 1.1 Million
CSA 1.3 Million
The 2008 estimate for Detroit, which was 912,000. Was very generous and not reality in my opinion.
In 2000, Detroit's population was at 951,000. I remember reading a Free Press article about 6 or so months ago saying that about 100,000 Detroiter's in the last decade had moved from the city to the suburbs for better schools and other reasons. Plus, who knows who many others didn't move to the suburbs but out of the metropolitan area altogether.
In 2000, Detroit Public Schools had approx. 145,000 students enrolled in the district. In 2006, 117,000. And in 2009, 88,000. Where could all those students be going?
I could change my estimate to ~800,000, but that's as high as I'm going to go. Detroit's condition does lead me to believe anything else.
I hate to think this way.....but I think under this adminstration and the way they have reorganized who the Census is under....Cities like Dertoit will get more favorable counts or (adjustments). You have to remember that many cities sued for undercounts for the mathematical margins of errors that were high for minoriites. Moreover, there have been more hispanics moving into the city as well. Also....I think some people who moved from detroit without skills to places like Atlanta and the like.....had to move back with family in Detroit once those places hit hard times.
SF Proper: 850,000
SF MSA: 4.5 Million
SF CSA: 7.8 Million
This is what the State of California currently estimates the 2010 population to be and I suspect the Census will follow suit.
If we add Stockton, the CSA population will be 8.4 Million
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