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Cleveland, as far as anyone outside the US is concerned is Ohio. Forget the recent census data. If you were to ask anyone what the most important city in Ohio was 99% would say Cleveland...
Perhaps... Cleveland's aura as a former Midwestern industrial/financial powerhouse and its reputation as a present-day Midwestern cultural center are formidable, but not nearly so dominant, now that Cincinnati has ascended with its own formidable array of marketing and cultural list of assets.
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To most Cincinnati is a radio station, Columbus is an explorer, and Cleveland is Ohio.
Not quite... Today, Ohio's "3-C's" have all emerged as three distinct cities which each claim to be Ohio's best. Obviously, Cleveland is NE Ohio's flagship city, but, in SW Ohio, Cincinnati's a fiefdom all its own, while Columbus dominates the flatlands of the state's center. Check back in 10-20 years and this relationship may have radically changed, but not now.
I would like to see your reasoning behind this one...
21c museum(it was rated number one in i think more unique high quality museum, only two in the world), Cincinnati museum(It is a nationally recognized educational and research resource and one of the top cultural attractions in the Midwest. Cincinnati Museum Center serves more than 1.47 million visitors annually, reaching out to almost 200,000 young people through hands-on exhibits and programs). Cincinnati art museum( one of the best oldest in the country has some of the most unique art in the country) Contemporary arts Museum Creation Museum(The state-of-the-art 70,000 square foot museum brings the pages of the Bible to life, only one in the country) Children's museum(been rated top ten in the country since the late 1980s). Art Beyond Boundaries Art Works
Their is more then 50 museums in cincinnati not including the galleries located in cincinnati. Not to mention our zoo is ranked 6th best in the country.
21c museum(it was rated number one in i think more unique high quality museum, only two in the world), Cincinnati museum(It is a nationally recognized educational and research resource and one of the top cultural attractions in the Midwest. Cincinnati Museum Center serves more than 1.47 million visitors annually, reaching out to almost 200,000 young people through hands-on exhibits and programs). Cincinnati art museum( one of the best oldest in the country has some of the most unique art in the country) Contemporary arts Museum Creation Museum(The state-of-the-art 70,000 square foot museum brings the pages of the Bible to life, only one in the country) Children's museum(been rated top ten in the country since the late 1980s). Art Beyond Boundaries Art Works
Their is more then 50 museums in cincinnati not including the galleries located in cincinnati. Not to mention our zoo is ranked 6th best in the country.
Wait, you're actually naming Creation Museum as a cultural amenity?
21c museum(it was rated number one in i think more unique high quality museum, only two in the world), Cincinnati museum(It is a nationally recognized educational and research resource and one of the top cultural attractions in the Midwest. Cincinnati Museum Center serves more than 1.47 million visitors annually, reaching out to almost 200,000 young people through hands-on exhibits and programs). Cincinnati art museum( one of the best oldest in the country has some of the most unique art in the country) Contemporary arts Museum Creation Museum(The state-of-the-art 70,000 square foot museum brings the pages of the Bible to life, only one in the country) Children's museum(been rated top ten in the country since the late 1980s). Art Beyond Boundaries Art Works
Their is more then 50 museums in cincinnati not including the galleries located in cincinnati. Not to mention our zoo is ranked 6th best in the country.
The Creation Museum? . . . I'm sure its a very well put together museum, but that does not exactly make Cincinnati look like it keeps up with the 21st century. I generally would not promote that as far as what Cincinnati has to offer.
And this is coming from a guy who goes to church (Catholic) most weeks, and volunteers, etc. Its just that taking the Bible literally, goes against scientific observation. It reflects an archaic/medieval outlooks that is comparable to literally believing in going to Paradise and literally getting 72 virgins. God gave us a brain to reason with. And even though I value scriptures, the prophets were writing for their time. And symbolic mythology was the only thing people in 1000 BC could really understand.
But I don't want the thread to go in that direction. So, I'll just shut up.
The Creation Museum? . . . I'm sure its a very well put together museum, but that does not exactly make Cincinnati look like it keeps up with the 21st century. I generally would not promote that as far as what Cincinnati has to offer.
And this is coming from a guy who goes to church (Catholic) most weeks, and volunteers, etc. Its just that taking the Bible literally, goes against scientific observation. It reflects an archaic/medieval outlooks that is comparable to literally believing in going to Paradise and literally getting 72 virgins. God gave us a brain to reason with. And even though I value scriptures, the prophets were writing for their time. And symbolic mythology was the only thing people in 1000 BC could really understand.
But I don't want the thread to go in that direction. So, I'll just shut up.
I was just listing some nationally known museums in cincy.
Wait, you're actually naming Creation Museum as a cultural amenity?
They'll name it when promoting their metro, yet cite it as evidence that they are better than KY.
By the way, the 21C Museum Hotel is a chain based out of Louisville. It got rated the number one hotel in the world by Conde Naste Traveler last year. Cincinnati should feel privileged to get one, and it really will take the city's hip factor up a notch for sure.
As to the vote here. Cincy handily beats Cleveland. It is a bigger city, it is growing faster (and not LOSING population like metro Cleveland), it has more and better jobs, and its renaissance is at least 20 years ahead of Cleveland. It also has better food, is less spread out, and much better weather. The only thing that Cleveland wins on is more ethnic enclaves/hoods (which are fading), and a better transit system (although no one uses it). I do love Cleveland though, and hope it and Detroit can start growing again. These red brick historic cities cannot be replaced.
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They'll name it when promoting their metro, yet cite it as evidence that they are better than KY.
By the way, the 21C Museum Hotel is a chain based out of Louisville. It got rated the number one hotel in the world by Conde Naste Traveler last year. Cincinnati should feel privileged to get one, and it really will take the city's hip factor up a notch for sure.
As to the vote here. Cincy handily beats Cleveland. It is a bigger city, it is growing faster (and not LOSING population like metro Cleveland), it has more and better jobs, and its renaissance is at least 20 years ahead of Cleveland. It also has better food, is less spread out, and much better weather. The only thing that Cleveland wins on is more ethnic enclaves/hoods (which are fading), and a better transit system (although no one uses it). I do love Cleveland though, and hope it and Detroit can start growing again. These red brick historic cities cannot be replaced.
Cincinnati is soon to get better transportation then cleveland, with the sreetcar system planned through downtown and the light rail cleveland needs to speed up its lines to compete with cincinnati
Cincinnati is soon to get better transportation then cleveland, with the sreetcar system planned through downtown and the light rail cleveland needs to speed up its lines to compete with cincinnati
Cincy's streetcar is a joke compared to the RTA train system.
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