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Old 10-05-2010, 02:55 PM
 
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Well for the most part black areas on the south and west sides are depopulating, as hispanic and white areas on the north side are becoming more dense. You could actually say the predominantly black areas have spread into formerly white neighborhoods on the southwest sides over the past 10 years.

I think areas to the direct north, west and south of downtown have seen some shift from black to white since 2000.
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Old 10-05-2010, 03:35 PM
 
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Crime continues to fall within the city of Los Angeles! On track to be the safest year ever.

As of Saturday October 2nd:
221 murders in the city (population 3.85 million). This a decrease of 9% from the same time last year (244 same period last year).
--Total violent crime is down 12%

The LAPD expects the city to have under 300 murders this year, which will be the first time in a LONG time. Especially since we were having over 1,000 murders per year in the 90's. As Los Angeles has matured, the police department has done a better job fighting crime and especially gangs. Communities have rallied against crime and a more family friendly culture rather than thug life culture is rising in many of the dangerous neighborhoods. Many students in the rough areas are putting their hopes in getting into college or a having a job rather than getting into the gang culture. Gang homicides are down 24% and overall gang related crime is down 13%.

Great changes in some of the most notorious areas of L.A.
---For the Southwest Police Division, murders have fallen 64% from last year from 26 to 12 this year. This serves South L.A. neighborhoods like West Adams, Normandie, Crenshaw, Leimert Park, etc...
---The Rampart Police Division has also seen a nice drop. Homicides are down 24% to 13 from 17 at this point last year. This division serves the crowded, dense, and very diverse communities just outside of downtown like Filipinotown, Koreatown, Pico-Union, Westlake, and Echo Park.
---77th Street Division that serves South L.A. neighborhoods like Harvard Square, Vermont Park, etc... is flat with last year.
---Southeast Division that serves notorious Watts, Hacienda Village, Avalon Gardens, etc... is down just 3% to 33 from 34.
---Newton Division that serves part of South L.A. is one of the only divisions that went up. 24%

---The other 20 divisions in L.A. usually don't see that many homicides, but have made progress and seen homicides fall from 5 to 2, 3 to 0, etc....
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Old 10-05-2010, 03:52 PM
 
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Crime continues to fall within the city of Los Angeles! On track to be the safest year ever.

As of Saturday October 2nd:
221 murders in the city (population 3.85 million). This a decrease of 9% from the same time last year (244 same period last year).
--Total violent crime is down 12%

The LAPD expects the city to have under 300 murders this year, which will be the first time in a LONG time. Especially since we were having over 1,000 murders per year in the 90's. As Los Angeles has matured, the police department has done a better job fighting crime and especially gangs. Communities have rallied against crime and a more family friendly culture rather than thug life culture is rising in many of the dangerous neighborhoods. Many students in the rough areas are putting their hopes in getting into college or a having a job rather than getting into the gang culture. Gang homicides are down 24% and overall gang related crime is down 13%.

Great changes in some of the most notorious areas of L.A.
---For the Southwest Police Division, murders have fallen 64% from last year from 26 to 12 this year. This serves South L.A. neighborhoods like West Adams, Normandie, Crenshaw, Leimert Park, etc...
---The Rampart Police Division has also seen a nice drop. Homicides are down 24% to 13 from 17 at this point last year. This division serves the crowded, dense, and very diverse communities just outside of downtown like Filipinotown, Koreatown, Pico-Union, Westlake, and Echo Park.
---77th Street Division that serves South L.A. neighborhoods like Harvard Square, Vermont Park, etc... is flat with last year.
---Southeast Division that serves notorious Watts, Hacienda Village, Avalon Gardens, etc... is down just 3% to 33 from 34.
---Newton Division that serves part of South L.A. is one of the only divisions that went up. 24%

---The other 20 divisions in L.A. usually don't see that many homicides, but have made progress and seen homicides fall from 5 to 2, 3 to 0, etc....
so with that being said blacks and latinos no longer enemies and are improving their relationship?
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Old 10-05-2010, 07:11 PM
 
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so with that being said blacks and latinos no longer enemies and are improving their relationship?
Things are better than before, but in certainly depends on the neighborhood. The chaos that first erupted as black and latino gangs began to have overlapping territory has died down. Still, the majority of homicides are gang crimes (probably like that in most cities) and still often racially motivated or motivated against rival gangs that are opposing races. Most of the general public lives peacefully among each other.

That said, African Americans that used to be the overwhelming majority in neighborhoods like Watts are still not used to the modern day Watts that is 61% Hispanic. Things have changed in many historically black neighborhoods. South L.A. is now 56% Hispanic and 38% Black. In 1985 it was overwhelmingly black. Tensions arise more in neighborhoods like South L.A. than in more diverse areas of L.A. like the Harbor neighborhoods (39% Hispanic, 31% White, 13% Black, 13% Asian) or South Bay (40% White, 27% Hispanic, 15% Black, 14% Asian). People in general don't like change, especially when it makes them feel uncomfortable. Many of the long time residents of South L.A. that remember the majority black days probably didn't expect the change in their neighborhood.

Many blacks have moved to areas like Atlanta from Los Angeles because of this and hence the percentage of African Americans in L.A. has decreased. In fact, almost all of California has seen African Americans leave in droves. In 1970 Los Angeles was 20% Black. San Francisco used to be 13% black in 1970 and is now under 6% black. Its also mostly economic. African Americans have the lowest median income in California and likely see the economic opportunity of other states.
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Old 10-05-2010, 08:34 PM
 
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Things are better than before, but in certainly depends on the neighborhood. The chaos that first erupted as black and latino gangs began to have overlapping territory has died down. Still, the majority of homicides are gang crimes (probably like that in most cities) and still often racially motivated or motivated against rival gangs that are opposing races. Most of the general public lives peacefully among each other.

That said, African Americans that used to be the overwhelming majority in neighborhoods like Watts are still not used to the modern day Watts that is 61% Hispanic. Things have changed in many historically black neighborhoods. South L.A. is now 56% Hispanic and 38% Black. In 1985 it was overwhelmingly black. Tensions arise more in neighborhoods like South L.A. than in more diverse areas of L.A. like the Harbor neighborhoods (39% Hispanic, 31% White, 13% Black, 13% Asian) or South Bay (40% White, 27% Hispanic, 15% Black, 14% Asian). People in general don't like change, especially when it makes them feel uncomfortable. Many of the long time residents of South L.A. that remember the majority black days probably didn't expect the change in their neighborhood.

Many blacks have moved to areas like Atlanta from Los Angeles because of this and hence the percentage of African Americans in L.A. has decreased. In fact, almost all of California has seen African Americans leave in droves. In 1970 Los Angeles was 20% Black. San Francisco used to be 13% black in 1970 and is now under 6% black. Its also mostly economic. African Americans have the lowest median income in California and likely see the economic opportunity of other states.

the wealthy black areas of los angeles like baldwin hills and the others , and black areas in Inglewood are still strongly afro american right??

are the belizean , Jamaican, and Haitian , and African immigrant blacks leaving l.a/l.a county as well??
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Old 10-05-2010, 08:46 PM
 
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I know that Houston and Dallas both in general have received alot of Black Angelenos over the past 10 years. I have read about the problems going on out there, though. Does the Bay Area go through this?
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Old 10-10-2010, 03:29 PM
 
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2001 murders- BOJ statistics

New York- 714
Chicago---666
L.A.-------588
well, from the stats i've seen it was:

1. Chicago - 666
2. New York - 649
3. Los Angeles - 588

even this ny times article says it:

U.S. Crime Rate Rose 2% in 2001 After 10 Years of Decreases - NYTimes.com

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New York had the biggest decline, with 649 murders in 2001 compared with 673 in 2000, a decrease of 3.6 percent
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Old 10-10-2010, 03:53 PM
 
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^^^^^^^ Geez, anyone else find it eerie that Chicago's number is 666?
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Old 10-10-2010, 10:40 PM
 
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^^^^^^^ Geez, anyone else find it eerie that Chicago's number is 666?
city data says 665 so idk but since the blogger put a ny times article link i guess i will go with the article.
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Old 10-11-2010, 11:22 AM
 
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I remember that, it was 666.

It was brought up because the number of murders hovered around 650 per year for awhile, then suddenly dropped down to around 450 starting in 2004, and staying that way through right now except for a one-time bump in 2008.
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