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so in 1 year they went from 310 to over 1 thousand. that's really strange.
This is exactly why the current general American view of Mexico is seriously flawed... up until 2 years ago it was no more dangerous than the US. Hell, in 07 Ciudad Juarez was less dangerous than my city (Oakland) was in 07... Now its as dangerous as EPA was back in 1992. The sad part is how violent America is and there is no drug war of comparable scale... hopefully there never will be.
2007 - 337
2008 - 843
2009 - 657
2010 - 597 (Sept. 1st, closest date I could find)
The sad part is that New Orleans is only slightly less murderous. This country's seriously ****ed if it manages to be as murderous as a country that's basically in the middle of a war
This is exactly why the current general American view of Mexico is seriously flawed... up until 2 years ago it was no more dangerous than the US. Hell, in 07 Ciudad Juarez was less dangerous than my city (Oakland) was in 07... Now its as dangerous as EPA was back in 1992. The sad part is how violent America is and there is no drug war of comparable scale... hopefully there never will be.
EPA had a crime rate that huge? also that Mexican city doesn't even have l.a,s population and ranks all those murders.
This is exactly why the current general American view of Mexico is seriously flawed... up until 2 years ago it was no more dangerous than the US. Hell, in 07 Ciudad Juarez was less dangerous than my city (Oakland) was in 07... Now its as dangerous as EPA was back in 1992. The sad part is how violent America is and there is no drug war of comparable scale... hopefully there never will be.
it has happened, miami(city and county) dade county fl in the late 70's to early 90's the 80s were extremely bad, which is why the US went on the war on drugs and which is why something like mexico will never happen
watch cocaine cowboys for reference watch all parts.
here is a trailer, bottom vid is whoel doc
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it has happened, miami(city and county) dade county fl in the late 70's to early 90's the 80s were extremely bad, which is why the US went on the war on drugs and which is why something like mexico will never happen
watch cocaine cowboys for reference watch all parts.
Oakland, CA
Pop 430,000
Homicides Year to Date(2010): 74
Homicides Year to Date(2009): 95
Homicides Year to Date(2008): 100+
Homicides Year to Date(2007): 100+
Homicides Year to Date(2006): 120+
Still much higher than it should be, but we are seeing a definite downward trend which is great, but Im on eggshells over the past few weeks because summer had an amazingly low number of homicides(for Oakland), but the past month has seen an uptick. If we could end out the year under 80 that would be so awesome, but I won't hold my breath as the hoodlums seem to be restless these days.
Sometimes I wish we could lock all the murderers in a room and let them kill each other already.
Oakland, CA
Pop 430,000
Homicides Year to Date(2010): 74
Homicides Year to Date(2009): 95
Homicides Year to Date(2008): 100+
Homicides Year to Date(2007): 100+
Homicides Year to Date(2006): 120+
Still much higher than it should be, but we are seeing a definite downward trend which is great, but Im on eggshells over the past few weeks because summer had an amazingly low number of homicides(for Oakland), but the past month has seen an uptick. If we could end out the year under 80 that would be so awesome, but I won't hold my breath as the hoodlums seem to be restless these days.
Sometimes I wish we could lock all the murderers in a room and let them kill each other already.
imo thats the problem... we already do that in a way. There's a reason why DEO's called the "Killing Fields"... its a criminal's playground. Murder is like a swing... what goes around comes around.
EPA had a crime rate that huge? also that Mexican city doesn't even have l.a,s population and ranks all those murders.
yessir. EPA had 42 murders with a population of under 25000... 42 x 4 = 168/100,000. Ciudad Juarez has had 2521 murders so far this year and the population was last recorded at 1,400,000... 2521/14 = 180/100,000. There was a 1 in 500 chance of being murdered in EPA... it was a war zone on par with the worst in the WORLD in 1992. Its why EPA has a ridiculously ****ty reputation to this day.
imo thats the problem... we already do that in a way. There's a reason why DEO's called the "Killing Fields"... its a criminal's playground. Murder is like a swing... what goes around comes around.
Yes unfortunately this is true.
I did this thread in May 2009 about homicides in Oakland by neighborhood and District:
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Oakland, California by District
District Homicides in 2008/ as of May 10, 2009
Neighborhood Median Household Income
Northwest Hills District 1 Homicide in 2008/ 0 in 2009
Hiller Highlands/ Panoramic Hill $133,272
Piedmont Pines $116,633
Claremont $115,610
Sheperd Canyon $105,767
Montclair $102,248
Glen Highlands $101,888
Merriewood $101,545
Forestland $99,262
Upper Rockridge $97,646
Oakmore $79,410 1 in 2008
Southwest Hills District 2 Homicides in 2008/ 0 in 2009
Crestmont/ Woodminster $88,812
Caballo Hills $87,686
Leona Heights $87,686
Skyline-Hillcrest Estates $87,686
Sequoyah $85,648 2 in 2008
Chabot Park $76,764
Sheffield Village $73,229
Lower Hills District 1 Homicide in 2008/ 1 in 2009
Crocker Highlands $106,217
Trestle Glen $89,220
Lincoln Highlands $68,432
Upper Dimond $66,541 1 in 2009
Glenview $58,986 1 in 2008
Redwood Heights $58,863
Lakeshore $51,659
Grand Lake $43,865
North Oakland District 7 Homicides in 2008/ 5 in 2009
Rockridge $66,350
Shafter $58,663
Fairview Park $58,405 1 in 2008
Piedmont Ave $42,757
Bushrod $38,773 1 in 2009
Temescal $38,530
Mosswood $35,749 2 in 2009
Paradise Park $33,100
Golden Gate $32,094 1 in 2008
Santa Fe $30,587 1 in 2009
Gaskill $29,338
Longfellow $27,290 5 in 2008/ 1 in 2009
West Oakland District 18 Homicides in 2008/ 2 in 2009
South Prescott $50,208 1 in 2008
McClymonds $27,095 5 in 2008
Clawson $26,319
Prescott $22,748 3 in 2008
Ralph Bunch $21,638
Hoover/ Foster $19,824 4 in 2008/ 2 in 2009
Oak Center $18,807
Acorn/ Acorn Industrial $15,824 5 in 2008
Central(Downtown)/ Chinatown 3 Homicides in 2008/ 3 in 2009
Adams Point $41,561 1 in 2009
Oakland Av/ Harrison St $32,340
Civic Center/ Lakeside/ Lake Merritt $30,470 1 in 2009
Pill Hill $18,644 1 in 2009
Downtown $15,341 1 in 2008
Chinatown $14,283 1 in 2008
San Pablo Gateway $10,268 1 in 2008
San Antonio District 4 Homicidies in 2008/ 3 in 2009
Cleveland Heights $43,239
Bella Vista $36,918
Lynn/ Highland Park $34,917
Tuxedo $34,580 1 in 2009
Merritt $34,386 1 in 2008
Ivy Hill $33,798
Clinton $30,817 1 in 2009
Highland Terrace $30,721 1 in 2008
Reservoir Hill/ Meadow Brook $30,519
Rancho San Antonio $28,677 1 in 2008
Oak Tree $28,348 1 in 2008
East Peralta $27,318 1 in 2009
Fruitvale District 15 Homicides in 2008/ 5 in 2009
Jefferson/ Harrington $39,868 1 in 2008
Sausal Creek $36,286 1 in 2008
Dimond/ School $36,262 5 in 2008/ 1 in 2009
Laurel $36,080
Allendale $35,875 2 in 2008
North/ South Kennedy Tract/ Fruitvale Station $34,363 2 in 2008/ 3 in 2009
Bartlett/ Patten/ Peralta/ Hacienda $34,283 1 in 2009
Hawthorne $33,277 2 in 2008
St Elizabeth $31,094 3 in 2008
Central East Oakland District 30 Homicides in 2008/ 7 in 2009
Maxwell Park $47,184 1 in 2009
Frick $41,746 1 in 2008
Millsmont $38,611 9 in 2008/ 2 in 2009
Fairfax $35,625 2 in 2008
Hegenberger $35,096 1 in 2008
Seminary/ Havenscourt $30,922 10in 2008/ 1 in 2009
Melrose $29,470 4 in 2008/ 2 in 2009
Lockwood/ Tevis $26,384 1 in 2008/ 1 in 2009
Coliseum $25,903 2 in 2008
Elmhurst District 30 Homicides in 2008/ 10 in 2009
Oak Knoll/ Golf Links $56,063 2 in 2008/ 1 in 2009
Eastmont Hills $51,944
Toler Heights $48,401 3 in 2008
Durant Manor $40,787
Sobrante Park $40,104 1 in 2009
Foothill Square $39,716 2 in 2008
Las Palmas $37,215
Elmhurst Park $35,298 1 in 2008
Iveywood $35,224
Arroyo Viejo $33,266 1 in 2008
North/ South Stonehurst $33,092 3 in 2008
Eastmont $32,304 2 in 2008/ 4 in 2009
Webster $31,385 1 in 2008/ 2 in 2009
Highland $30,539 1 in 2008
Fitchburg $29,984 4 in 2008
Brookfield Village $29,781 1 in 2008/ 1 in 2009
Cox $28,696 2 in 2008/ 2 in 2009
Castlemont $28,249 6 in 2008/ 1 in 2009
Woodland $25,692 1 in 2008
Data from SFGATE, zillow.com and the Oakland Museum of CA Website.
I plan on updating it soon to inculde 2008, all of 2009 and year to date 2010.
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