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View Poll Results: Which place is better?
Atlanta 152 53.52%
New Orleans 132 46.48%
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Old 06-09-2010, 02:07 PM
 
Location: West Midtown Atlanta
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Extensive street car network?

There are only 3 street car routes in all of New Orleans. MARTA has a subway. Guess which one has 25 times the daily ridership?

yeah I lol'd when I saw that one as well. 3 street car routes that really have more of a nostalgic purpose than actually moving and transporting people around in comparision to a subway with over a quarter of a million daily ridership.

 
Old 06-09-2010, 02:09 PM
 
Location: New Orleans, United States
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LOL..... thats why the 350.2 sq. miles is broken down to include land and water.

Like I said before of that 350.2 sq. miles, 180.6 is land and the other 169.6 is water. Either figure is larger than the 136 or something like that sq. miles that Atlanta has. So unless you have something that can dispute the US Census then it appears that this story is indeed over
Water doesn't include the entire swamp kid, since swamp is composed of soil as well. try again.
All you have to do is look at a map. Google, Bing, Rand McNally, MapQuest, Wal-Mart, etc....
 
Old 06-09-2010, 02:11 PM
 
Location: The Greatest city on Earth: City of Atlanta Proper
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Canal-Cemetaries
St. Charles
N. Carrollton
Riverfront

lol, that's 4 with 3 coming. Atlanta still wins that.
Streets, highways, and buses, we win.
Ah, I hadn't heard about the fourth. That's a positive move in the right direction.

Highways, buses, nah.

MARTA has 110 bus routes to RTAs 35.

Highways, this one that Atlanta unfortunately wins. We've got bigger ones, with some even being 16 laners.

Streets...I assume you say that because of the gridded layout of New Orleans' streets as opposed to the City of Atlanta's "Eh, a street can go here, ooh, there goes a grid". I'll admit, our streets are windy and only make sense after careful study, but they are in way better condition than most of the streets I've seen in NOLA. Eh, I'll let you have the streets.
 
Old 06-09-2010, 02:17 PM
 
Location: New Orleans, United States
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Ah, I hadn't heard about the fourth. That's a positive move in the right direction.

Highways, buses, nah.

MARTA has 110 bus routes to RTAs 35.

Highways, this one that Atlanta unfortunately wins. We've got bigger ones, with some even being 16 laners.

Streets...I assume you say that because of the gridded layout of New Orleans' streets as opposed to the City of Atlanta's "Eh, a street can go here, ooh, there goes a grid". I'll admit, our streets are windy and only make sense after careful study, but they are in way better condition than most of the streets I've seen in NOLA. Eh, I'll let you have the streets.
NOLA's highways and streets are designed so that travel isn't limited to a few main routes. The fact that surface transportation is so poor is the reason yall have 16 lane freeways. Not to mention ATL's freeway layout is ineffective. If 420 was built and 675 completed it would be a different story. I hear there are plans to finish 675 in a tunnel to 400 though.
Plus RTA is connected to the transit authorities in the suburban parishes and ridership is per capita higher I believe.

The 4th line has been around just as long as the others.

BTW, NOLA is going through a citywide street reconstruction project so that isn't the case like it was. I'll will admit that they were rough.
 
Old 06-09-2010, 02:21 PM
 
Location: West Midtown Atlanta
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Water doesn't include the entire swamp kid, since swamp is composed of soil as well. try again.
All you have to do is look at a map. Google, Bing, Rand McNally, MapQuest, Wal-Mart, etc....

So since I posted the sq. miles for the actual city of New Orleans, where are the swamps in the actual city of New Orleans. Because from my experiences down there, the city itself looks quite urbanized with out allot of empty green space. Perhaps I missed something? lol

So once again, where are the swamps in New Orleans??? Not St Brenard, not Jefferson, not Plaquemine, but the actual city itself.
 
Old 06-09-2010, 02:26 PM
 
Location: New Orleans, United States
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So since I posted the sq. miles for the actual city of New Orleans, where are the swamps in the actual city of New Orleans. Because from my experiences down there, the city itself looks quite urbanized with out allot of empty green space. Perhaps I missed something? lol

So once again, where are the swamps in New Orleans??? Not St Brenard, not Jefferson, not Plaquemine, but the actual city itself.
ummmm ike everything from I-510 to Slidell starting from the lake down to St. Bernard Parish. Then there's a section on the Westbank from the Intracoastal Waterway to Plaquemines Parish. Then we have Lake Borgne, The Rigolets, etc.
 
Old 06-09-2010, 02:29 PM
 
Location: West Midtown Atlanta
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NOLA's highways and streets are designed so that travel isn't limited to a few main routes. The fact that surface transportation is so poor is the reason yall have 16 lane freeways. Not to mention ATL's freeway layout is ineffective. If 420 was built and 675 completed it would be a different story. I hear there are plans to finish 675 in a tunnel to 400 though.
Plus RTA is connected to the transit authorities in the suburban parishes and ridership is per capita higher I believe.

The 4th line has been around just as long as the others.

BTW, NOLA is going through a citywide street reconstruction project so that isn't the case like it was. I'll will admit that they were rough.

@ bolded..whats your point? If the northern arc were built, if 385 were ever built, sh*t if MARTA had more stops and actually had rail lines that extended into the burbs it would be a different story. So whats your point?

And lol @ ineffective, yeah Atlanta's layout is about as ineffective as New Orleans being built on land that cant even support its own weight...
 
Old 06-09-2010, 02:33 PM
 
Location: New Orleans, United States
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@ bolded..whats your point? If the northern arc were built, if 385 were ever built, sh*t if MARTA had more stops and actually had rail lines that extended into the burbs it would be a different story. So whats your point?

And lol @ ineffective, yeah Atlanta's layout is about as ineffective as New Orleans being built on land that cant even support its own weight...
420 and 675 would have made it a lot easier to get around Atlanta, not the Northern ARC, but the original 420.
MY POINT was comparing the two systems with waronxmas. What's yours? If it was effective you wouldn't need 16 lanes in middle of nowhere and the 2 main highways wouldn't share the same road bed through the center of the city. . If it was effective the transportation bill wouldn't be an issue.
 
Old 06-09-2010, 02:36 PM
 
Location: West Midtown Atlanta
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ummmm ike everything from I-510 to Slidell starting from the lake down to St. Bernard Parish. Then there's a section on the Westbank from the Intracoastal Waterway to Plaquemines Parish. Then we have Lake Borgne, The Rigolets, etc.

Last I checked Slidell wasnt even in the city of New Orleans, Lake Borgne which stretches from St.Tamany Parish all the way to Mississippisi almost is not in New Orleans either. As I stated earlier, the sq. miles I quoted were for the city of New Orleans, not the entire land area of southeastern Lousiana. So once again, where are the swamps in the city of New Orleans???????????
 
Old 06-09-2010, 02:40 PM
 
Location: New Orleans, United States
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Last I checked Slidell wasnt even in the city of New Orleans, Lake Borgne which stretches from St.Tamany Parish all the way to Mississippisi almost is not in New Orleans either. As I stated earlier, the sq. miles I quoted were for the city of New Orleans, not the entire land area of southeastern Lousiana. So once again, where are the swamps in the city of New Orleans???????????
I just broke it down for you, either you just want to argue or you can't comprehend. Here's a picture. You see Orleans, well that's New Orleans.
http://www.lamappingproject.com/_images/OrleansParish.jpg (broken link)

That bold line is the city limits, the green is the swamp.
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