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Old 09-11-2017, 10:49 PM
 
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You just sound like every old person who couldn't understand a younger generation and didn't want to. The idea that you have to get married, have kids and live in the suburbs or otherwise you are a self-centered brat is some real 1950s thinking. I'm not even a Millennial and I find that completely boring. It's okay, join us here in 2017.
Sorry, but there's no generation gap anymore. I don't care who gets married and has kids or not; just pointing out facts. Sorry, I wasn't alive in the '50s, sounds like you may have been though. The '50s adults with that decades thinking are long gone.

I didn't say you were a millennial. The moving to Mexico City example was just an example of millennial self-centeredness. Other than you denying the millennial association with that example, it sounds like the taking advantage of a poor country and being self-centered applies to you as well. You may not be a millennial but you have similar traits it sounds like.

Anyway, I wonder if CLE is going to make an official bid for Amazon. I hope so since CLE is a shoe-in for winning it.
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Old 09-12-2017, 05:46 AM
 
Location: Cleveland and Columbus OH
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I am turning 28 in a couple weeks. I think millennials trash marriage and children because they are afraid or anything that involves dedication and commitment and especially hard work. It's easier, though ultimately empty, to pursue your own ideals independent of anyone else. You'll never feel like you compromised your life for someone who doesn't appreciate the sacrifice. But on the other hand, you never really "live" in my opinion. The millennial life experience and attitude is foreign to 99% of all people who have ever lived. Are we smarter than They? I submit no.

Personally I do think marriage is exciting, much more so than being 36 with roommates in a coastal city where you don't know the names of your neighbors (who change ever year anyway). More exciting than constantly worrying about your status among your peers so you can get more tinder dates. I am not married but if you asked me what I want to do, I'd rather get married and move to Cleveland or go live somewhere in New Hampshire or something. I think my generation will realize their mistakes when their looks start to fade.

To note though: millennials who think like me are more numerous than a lot assume. We just don't incessantly tweet about it.
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Old 09-12-2017, 06:27 AM
 
Location: In the heights
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Cleveland is probably the least expensive city for land and cost of living among US cities that meet the mass transit and airport requirements, but it's a harder sell in terms of currently being attractive to very well-compensated tech workers so it'd have to be a pretty slick proposal. Has the city announced that they're trying for the bid?
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Old 09-12-2017, 09:28 AM
 
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Do we know which Ohio cities will respond to the RFP?
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Old 09-12-2017, 09:52 AM
 
Location: Cincinnati (Norwood)
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Do we know which Ohio cities will respond to the RFP?
Cincinnati, for one. Here's a local media scoop...
Amazon: Does Cincinnati have what it takes to land Amazon headquarters? - Insider - Story

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Old 09-12-2017, 10:15 AM
 
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Sorry, but there's no generation gap anymore. I don't care who gets married and has kids or not; just pointing out facts. Sorry, I wasn't alive in the '50s, sounds like you may have been though. The '50s adults with that decades thinking are long gone.

I didn't say you were a millennial. The moving to Mexico City example was just an example of millennial self-centeredness. Other than you denying the millennial association with that example, it sounds like the taking advantage of a poor country and being self-centered applies to you as well. You may not be a millennial but you have similar traits it sounds like.

Anyway, I wonder if CLE is going to make an official bid for Amazon. I hope so since CLE is a shoe-in for winning it.

You have no idea why I moved or anything about my personal life, and I can tell you that you're completely wrong in that regard. No surprise from someone who seems to personally resent 76 million other people you don't know personally, either.
The fact is that the newest generation is always the most scapegoated. They're always the most "lazy, self-centered", etc. That's always been true. Some Millennials seem to want different things based on how they grew up- largely in a time of great uncertainty. Think of the major events that shaped their lives- 9/11, terrorism, economic recession, growing nationalism, housing collapse... these things tend to change how people think and what their priorities are. It's no surprise to me that that generation may be putting less emphasis on buying stuff like houses, cars and other material things when they grew up seeing their parents struggling to pay for them, or even losing them. It's also of no surprise that they'd be motivated to try different careers and be willing to move places where their economic advantages might be more stable. This might include living at home longer (a very common practice globally, but frowned upon in the US), moving to urban areas or trying to be self-employed. How all this turned into them being the laziest, most self-centered generation, I don't know, but those attitudes have long been par for the course. Even then, these are just generalizations and hardly represent all Millennials. The fact is that the generation will likely be just fine, and be as productive as any other. They can't be worse than the Boomers, that's for sure.
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Old 09-12-2017, 10:16 AM
 
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Cleveland is probably the least expensive city for land and cost of living among US cities that meet the mass transit and airport requirements, but it's a harder sell in terms of currently being attractive to very well-compensated tech workers so it'd have to be a pretty slick proposal. Has the city announced that they're trying for the bid?
I would think Detroit would be even cheaper, and it's gotten some buzz recently on the tech side. Of course, it also arguably has far more serious problems than Cleveland, so I think it's an even bigger long shot.
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Old 09-12-2017, 12:53 PM
 
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You have no idea why I moved or anything about my personal life, and I can tell you that you're completely wrong in that regard. No surprise from someone who seems to personally resent 76 million other people you don't know personally, either.
The fact is that the newest generation is always the most scapegoated. They're always the most "lazy, self-centered", etc. That's always been true. Some Millennials seem to want different things based on how they grew up- largely in a time of great uncertainty. Think of the major events that shaped their lives- 9/11, terrorism, economic recession, growing nationalism, housing collapse... these things tend to change how people think and what their priorities are. It's no surprise to me that that generation may be putting less emphasis on buying stuff like houses, cars and other material things when they grew up seeing their parents struggling to pay for them, or even losing them. It's also of no surprise that they'd be motivated to try different careers and be willing to move places where their economic advantages might be more stable. This might include living at home longer (a very common practice globally, but frowned upon in the US), moving to urban areas or trying to be self-employed. How all this turned into them being the laziest, most self-centered generation, I don't know, but those attitudes have long been par for the course. Even then, these are just generalizations and hardly represent all Millennials. The fact is that the generation will likely be just fine, and be as productive as any other. They can't be worse than the Boomers, that's for sure.
I would add to the list of continued millennials' parents payments: the millennials themselves.

Don't care or know why you moved to a 3rd world country but you stated that you get to enjoy a great lifestyle and all the advantages of low cost living in Mexico City...it's so cheap...yet mired in poverty.

The millennials were raised for the most part by boomers, no doubt. At least the boomers passed joints and flowers around for a while.

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Old 09-12-2017, 12:57 PM
 
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I would add to the last of continued millennials' parents payments: the millennials themselves.

Don't care or know why you moved to a 3rd world country but you stated that you get to enjoy a great lifestyle and all the advantages of low cost living in Mexico City...it's so cheap...yet mired in poverty.

The millennials were raised for the most part by boomers, no doubt. At least the boomers passed joints and flowers around for a while.
Admittedly, I haven't followed this entire thread, but Jesus, why so worked up? That is pretty passive aggressive and not so passive aggressive.
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Old 09-12-2017, 01:01 PM
 
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How is CIN going to pull the wool over Amazon's eyes, for example, about its ''mass transit'' system?

Blue Ash, Oakley, or Boone County, KY? Seriously?
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