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Old 01-05-2015, 10:15 AM
 
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Hi Sheena12 I read your posts about the colleges which do not require maths for graduation. I am very interested in the subject since I have a daughter who struggles with her dyscalculia. Although she is only in 5th grade now, I want to know what are her real possibilities for college life in the US. It is early, I know, but I do not want to wait until she is in High School to start wondering what to do... And plus, I promised her that once she finished school she would get rid of maths!
I do not think she will be able to pass an SAT or to complete college level maths courses. She has many other capabilities and gifts. One of her interests would be Special Education for little kids. And she would be excellent at that.
Do you, or anybody else, know where could she study for something like that without having to complete maths requirements?
Would she be entitled to waivers because of her disability?
Thanks for any feedback!
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Old 01-07-2015, 08:09 AM
 
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ADA brought sensitivity to all kinds of challenges including dyscalculia. I know the Florida state colleges and universities require math, but they do offer an alternative (some kind of computer-related course) - however, a student has to jump through a few hoops to "prove" that math courses are just not successfully possible. I would imagine that other states and possibly private colleges/university would offer the same kind of alternative.
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Old 01-12-2015, 08:10 PM
 
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With algebra, sure. But with calculus there is not always a cut-and-dry method to solving the problem.
I can't necessarily agree with that. In the calculus classes I've taken, there's always seemed to be some type of process. (e.g. Set the rates equal to each other, then integrate and punch in the numbers, or whatever). In a class like differential equations, a lot of times, the method is to guess that the function will take a certain form, and then work from there. But as far as I recall, there's always been some type of process to work in calculus.

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Have you seen what passes for writing in Freshman comp courses? Many 5th graders could do the same.
For what it's worth, the AP course that got me exempt from Freshman Comp involved a lot of analysis about tone and mood and other stuff like that. I'm not saying it was necessarily hard (because I aced, or "5'ed", that exam), but to say it's at a 5th grade level is pushing it.

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Not sure about computer science but all of the computer science majors I knew used calculus.
I'm an engineering major, and the computer science class I took only required very basic math (even though the prereq was precalculus). Stuff like knowing how to input even and odd numbers (for instance, when you want the computer to process even numbers, you write a loop that says that "for n/2 = 0........"). Nothing with limits or derivatives or anything like that.

Computer Science majors at my school can get through most of the curriculum with Calculus I. They're required to take Calculus II, Calculus III, and Linear Algebra, but with a quick glance at the curriculum, those don't appear to be prereqs for any other Computer Science courses. I met a computer science major who was only a few classes away from graduating, but was taking Calculus II at the time.

Of course, engineering classes require you to get your math requirements out of the way ASAP.
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Old 01-14-2015, 08:11 PM
 
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I think a lot of math anxiety, as is the case with many forms of anxiety, boils down to irrational fear. I remember entering college, having to take remedial algebra, thinking calculus was for geniuses and simply out of the question. Three calculus classes later and that attitude has evolved into "was a lot of work, but not impossible."
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Old 01-14-2015, 08:53 PM
 
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I think a lot of math anxiety, as is the case with many forms of anxiety, boils down to irrational fear. I remember entering college, having to take remedial algebra, thinking calculus was for geniuses and simply out of the question. Three calculus classes later and that attitude has evolved into "was a lot of work, but not impossible."
I agree. I used to have this mend set that I can never learn anything over basic algebra. Even algebra was extremely hard and challenging for me to learn, but once you have the right teachers and professors, it can be done. Its just going out to seek the right help when you need and perseverance. Now I done statistics and precalc and going to later take calc 1. It can be done.
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Old 06-26-2015, 11:49 AM
 
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Working memory is key to competency in math. Numerous neuroscience studies have proven working memory is crucial to retain formulas while solving an equation.
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Old 06-26-2015, 11:51 AM
 
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Yes.

Also necessary for retaining information in a variety of nonmathematical content areas.
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Old 09-12-2016, 08:08 AM
 
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Typical response for those who do not have a problem.it's like saying, if you can't read, you are stupid. If you can't walk, you are lazy. If you can't do math you are useless.

30 years ago Dyslexics were classified as useless, clumsy, stupid. Now it is recognized as learning disability of the way their brain functions.

Dyscalculia or if you will, the simple but not accurate explanation.... math dyslexia is just getting recognition. It's the way the brain works. Not everyone is a genius. The brain is different for everyone.

People who have physical disabilities are not told they are stupid because they can't walk, can't see, can't hear.

Does an artist need to know algebra? Do non math related jobs require math tht will never be used?
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Old 09-12-2016, 08:11 AM
 
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I agree. I used to have this mend set that I can never learn anything over basic algebra. Even algebra was extremely hard and challenging for me to learn, but once you have the right teachers and professors, it can be done. Its just going out to seek the right help when you need and perseverance. Now I done statistics and precalc and going to later take calc 1. It can be done.
And people who are in wheel chairs can walk if they try. That's foolish. Isaac Asimov wanted to be a physicist. He realized he could not do the math, so he went for other degrees. Not being proficient in math does not diminish his talent.

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Old 09-12-2016, 08:44 AM
 
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^^^Bingo. Good luck getting into most of those schools with a mediocre Math SAT score.
Would you say that to a person who was confined to a wheel chair? Or is there a difference in visual disabilities vs hiden disabilities?

A person who can't do math due to the way their brain functions, is no more able than a person confined to a wheelchair can walk. Accomodations are made to help those whose brains function differently than others.

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