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And the OP just might be that one who makes it!
Pushing your ideas on optimal careers doesn't help the OP find his....
People who make it in those careers are focused and driven from an early age. The OP doesn't have any idea what she wants to do (as she herself pointed out). It takes real passion and ambition to make it in fashion, not to mention talent, and the same is true for most liberal and fine arts. The OP seems to just want a real career instead of a job at Arby's and I think she will probably happiest with a degree that gets her that. Which is probably not fashion.
First off, fashion is not what I consider Liberal Arts. It's more of a trade.
Secondly, it's just a different perspective. Though some people may be more extreme than others.
Chasing your passions if they are non-practical...acting, music, art. I would never discourage that IF you have a true passion for it and you can't imagine a life doing anything else. OP is just kind of like, "I kinda wanna go to school, and I kinda want to do fashion."
If he comes on here saying, "I've been cutting up Barbie doll dresses since I was 6 and I have 50 scrapbooks full of designs and I'm going to fashion school." then nobody says a thing.
That said, fashion is actually semi-practical. Fashion buyer is a real job that you can get at several smaller textile and apparel importers.
When you see how tough and competitive it is to make it in this world, sometimes you just have to take practical road.
My sister has a child that she may have to raise by herself one day. Do you think she's happy that she's a physician instead of an artist (her passion when younger) or a journalist for that matter? You bet your a@@ she does.
My mother told me I should be a pharmacist when I graduated HS because I would definitely have gotten into the accelerated program and it was a good, secure living. I told her it was way too boring. Now, many years later, I wish I had listened to her.
I agree with you. I also mistook my interests for passions and talent, and didn't listen when my parents told me I couldn't "do anything with that." They were right. I should have become a "boring" lawyer. I even would have been good at it (and it was back when the lawyer market was good). I was stupid stupid stupid. Why don't we ever listen to our parents?
The OP hasn't taken any classes and is working at Arby's.
The OP hasn't taken any classes and is working at Arby's. Again, no offense to the OP, but what makes you think he is suited for a STEM career? If the OP showed promise in that direction in HS, I'm sure the option would have been presented to him at that point.
Seriously folks, the people who really want to go into STEM, the people with the attitude and aptitude to do it have already taken the steps to pursue it. I was originally a pre-veterinary major and then, for about one semester switched to nursing. I knew since 9th grade that I had the ability to do a STEM major. I just. didn't. care. for. it. So yeah, right now I could have been a vet or a nurse, but I would have HATED it!
The OP has an interest in fashion. The OP is young. The OP is better off pursuing this dream and adjusting it as life gives him more experience to make a more finalized decision. Maybe the OP has an untapped talent to explore. Or maybe the OP will switch to an accounting major after spending a year exploring this dream.
People who make it in those careers are focused and driven from an early age. The OP doesn't have any idea what she wants to do (as she herself pointed out). It takes real passion and ambition to make it in fashion, not to mention talent, and the same is true for most liberal and fine arts. The OP seems to just want a real career instead of a job at Arby's and I think she will probably happiest with a degree that gets her that. Which is probably not fashion.
The OP hasn't taken any classes and is working at Arby's. Again, no offense to the OP, but what makes you think he is suited for a STEM career? If the OP showed promise in that direction in HS, I'm sure the option would have been presented to him at that point.
Seriously folks, the people who really want to go into STEM, the people with the attitude and aptitude to do it have already taken the steps to pursue it. I was originally a pre-veterinary major and then, for about one semester switched to nursing. I knew since 9th grade that I had the ability to do a STEM major. I just. didn't. care. for. it. So yeah, right now I could have been a vet or a nurse, but I would have HATED it!
The OP has an interest in fashion. The OP is young. The OP is better off pursuing this dream and adjusting it as life gives him more experience to make a more finalized decision. Maybe the OP has an untapped talent to explore. Or maybe the OP will switch to an accounting major after spending a year exploring this dream.
They dont have to do STEM, but there are useful careers that are not STEM. Accounting and nursing are two great examples.
I agree with you. I also mistook my interests for passions and talent, and didn't listen when my parents told me I couldn't "do anything with that." They were right. I should have become a "boring" lawyer. I even would have been good at it (and it was back when the lawyer market was good). I was stupid stupid stupid. Why don't we ever listen to our parents?
I don't know.
But now in my mid 30s, I can see she was right about 80% of the time.
The OP hasn't taken any classes and is working at Arby's. Again, no offense to the OP, but what makes you think he is suited for a STEM career? If the OP showed promise in that direction in HS, I'm sure the option would have been presented to him at that point.
Seriously folks, the people who really want to go into STEM, the people with the attitude and aptitude to do it have already taken the steps to pursue it. I was originally a pre-veterinary major and then, for about one semester switched to nursing. I knew since 9th grade that I had the ability to do a STEM major. I just. didn't. care. for. it. So yeah, right now I could have been a vet or a nurse, but I would have HATED it!
The OP has an interest in fashion. The OP is young. The OP is better off pursuing this dream and adjusting it as life gives him more experience to make a more finalized decision. Maybe the OP has an untapped talent to explore. Or maybe the OP will switch to an accounting major after spending a year exploring this dream.
You walk into a casino, the Life Casino. You get one big bet on a roulette wheel. You may or may not get another spin, you can only count on this one. The wheel is marked S, L, and F-S is 55%, L is 42%, F is 3%. If you make a bet on one of those letters and it comes up, you have a career and employment. If you make a bet and it doesn't come up, you have student loans and a life posting on message boards complaining about your employability. Which are you going to bet on?
Here's the deal: S is STEM, L is Liberal Arts, F is Fashion. The percentages are the chances of doing pretty well at it in terms of landing a job, and they're probably a little generous to L. Heck, they're probably generous to F. They're extremely conservative for STEM, any type, at least for a technician-level job.
If the OP gets to college and takes some prereqs, they may choose L or even F. But with absolutely no background or knowledge, I'd go with the more likely outcome every time.
Maybe you don't understand what STEM is--Science, Technology, Engineering, Math---accounting and nursing would fall under those.....
No, Accounting and nursing is not really either. Maybe you dont understand what they are. They involve elements of science and math, but they are still not STEM. Chill out, no reason to get so mad over a small mistake you made in misunderstanding STEM. I understand your confusion though, they are in somewhat of a grey area.
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You walk into a casino, the Life Casino. You get one big bet on a roulette wheel. You may or may not get another spin, you can only count on this one. The wheel is marked S, L, and F-S is 55%, L is 42%, F is 3%. If you make a bet on one of those letters and it comes up, you have a career and employment. If you make a bet and it doesn't come up, you have student loans and a life posting on message boards complaining about your employability. Which are you going to bet on?
Here's the deal: S is STEM, L is Liberal Arts, F is Fashion. The percentages are the chances of doing pretty well at it in terms of landing a job, and they're probably a little generous to L. Heck, they're probably generous to F. They're extremely conservative for STEM, any type, at least for a technician-level job.
If the OP gets to college and takes some prereqs, they may choose L or even F. But with absolutely no background or knowledge, I'd go with the more likely outcome every time.
Haha. Vivid analogy.
Although you have to consider, not everybody is given the same amount of chips in life.
If you are attractive and pleasant woman and your interest is fashion, there is damn good chance that you will be able to snag a man who at least is capable of providing for the both of you while you can pursue your interests.
If you come from a wealthy family too or one with connections. You can have more than one shot.
And people who can talk the talk and influence people will usually do well regardless if they have a degree or not.
But for the rest of us, yes its pretty damn important.
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