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Old 01-14-2014, 08:42 PM
 
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Old 01-14-2014, 08:43 PM
 
Location: Cleveland, Ohio
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Because they want to force you into the world of Apps and the MS App store. So when you go to trade in your iPhone the salesguy says "hey... if you buy this Windows phone you're going to have all your apps that you bought on your laptop".
Well heck, what tablet are you going to buy next?

This is all Windows 8/8.1 was intended to do... get you to buy a phone. Period.
\\EDIT\\ A WINDOWS phone.
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Old 01-15-2014, 10:01 AM
 
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If Classic Shell, Start8, and other third party software can get rid of Metro, Charms, and restore the Start menu to the way it was on Windows 7, why can't MS do the same?
Not sure, hell, they probably don't even know why. I would say greed, but as the sales show, Windows ain't sellin so well so they have to know they screwed up.
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Old 01-15-2014, 10:25 AM
 
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We actually love it =) It was an adjustment which I think is the biggest reason others don't like it.
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Old 01-15-2014, 11:58 AM
 
Location: Cleveland, Ohio
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I think we already covered that it being an adjustment isn't the reason people don't like it.
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Old 01-15-2014, 05:37 PM
 
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If Classic Shell, Start8, and other third party software can get rid of Metro, Charms, and restore the Start menu to the way it was on Windows 7, why can't MS do the same?

Seems like the beta version of 8 had the ability to switch between them or at least some fashion of the start menu. It seems it was removed because MS thought if they tried to force metro on everyone, they would use it, get used to it and then buy windows phones and surface tablets since they had the same interface. It apparently didn't occur to them that we just wouldn't buy any of them. lol There are other options these days.
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Old 01-20-2014, 08:59 AM
 
Location: County Mayo Descendant
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I can understand embracing the concept of change, the fact that change happens and drives us forward as a species. That I can understand and (to a certain extent) agree with. But if what you're suggesting is that we should embrace every change just for the sake of change, just because "change is the future," I couldn't disagree more. If a certain change doesn't add anything to my life, doesn't make my life better in any way, then why would I embrace it? And if it actually detracts from my life - makes my life worse - then I'm certainly not going to embrace it; I'm going to reject it.

And Windows 8 is a change that makes my life worse, without making it significantly better in any way. I'm a very simple, basic computer user; I want to do word processing, look up information on the internet, send and receive e-mail, and occasionally check out a Youtube video. That's it; that's 95% of my computer usage right there. Most of the things that Win8 is designed to make it easier to do are things I do not want to do, and the tradeoff that I am forced to accept is that by designing it to do those things more easily, they have made it more difficult and more complicated to do the simple things I do want to do.

That is not change for the better; that is change for the worse. And no, I am most assuredly not going to embrace it. You're right - I do want my operating system to remain basically the same, and the reason for that is simple. It already did exactly what I wanted it to do, and did it rather efficiently. So why would I want it to change? I do appreciate today's faster connection speeds, of course, but as far as the operating system, interface, and basic software, every single thing I do on the computer could easily be done with Windows 95, Netscape Navigator, Office 97, and maybe Photoshop 5, if they were still available and supported. They could have stopped right there, and I'd have been happy the rest of my life. There is nothing about Windows 8 that I needed in order to make my computer experience more satisfying or enjoyable.

Is it that much more difficult? In most cases, perhaps not. But every single time I have to perform additional actions in order to complete the same basic task, it is an unnecessary inconvenience. I don't embrace even minor unnecessary inconveniences. And in some cases, yes - it's considerably more difficult to perform some basic tasks in Windows 8, and I certainly don't embrace that.

For those who like Windows 8, good on 'em. I'm happy for them, but for me, it represents nothing but a colossal PIA, because it makes it harder for me to do what I want to do and doesn't offer me anything useful in return. That's where the whole issue begins and ends with me.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man "George Bernard Shaw"

I hate it too!
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Old 01-20-2014, 09:04 AM
 
Location: Out in the Badlands
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Why? Everyone I know including a majority of people on this forum hate it. I actually like windows 8 because of its convinces. Why does everyone hate it?
It is OK for touch device...otherwise it sucks...I know ...I know...the world is going touchie.
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Old 01-20-2014, 10:08 AM
 
Location: Berkeley Neighborhood, Denver, CO USA
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HP brings back Windows 7 'by popular demand' | The Verge

"HP really wants people to buy a Windows 7 PC instead of a Windows 8 machine. The PC maker has been emailing customers over the weekend noting that "Windows 7 is back." A new promotion, designed to entice people to select Windows 7 over Windows 8 with $150 of "savings," has launched on HP’s website with a "back by popular demand" slogan. The move is clearly designed to position Windows 7 over Microsoft’s touch-centric Windows 8 operating system."
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Old 01-20-2014, 08:37 PM
 
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And I really have no idea why NJBest claims 8.1 was a HUGE improvement.
HCI research. Look into the research coming out of Stanford, UMich, and CMU. Particularly interesting is the depth of Albert Corbett's HCC work on Windows UIs. It's available on ACM.org. I think it will be showcased at the D conference (which I think is called WSJ.D conference this year).
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