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Old 09-02-2021, 07:28 AM
 
Location: USA
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And the same is true of Florida. Vaccines are available every where. Monoclonal antibodies save hospitalization and lives however for those with breakthrough infections and the unvaccinated. As the season changes, infections will increase as will hospitalization in Ct.
They'll increase some for the unvaccinated but it will be manageable numbers. CT is learning to live with it. They're doing a great job up here.
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Old 09-02-2021, 08:12 AM
 
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Your body, your choice...to be a walking biological weapon? I think not. No more than smoking indoors is your choice, or driving while intoxicated.
Vaccine will protect you from bad outcomes is your argument.
So not a valid comparison above.

Vaccinated individuals still can spread infection....

Also it's interesting to see how the left throw away arguments that no longer suit the agenda.
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Old 09-02-2021, 08:18 AM
 
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And will you be outraged if Connecticut businesses start banning unvaccinated customers from entering- even with face masks- or companies don't hire someone if they haven't received the vaccine? After all, their business, their choice right?




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My body, my choice! Teenage kids are rarely in danger here from CV.
If you want to get the shot. Your choice....
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Old 09-02-2021, 08:19 AM
 
Location: Fairfield County CT
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My body, my choice! Teenage kids are rarely in danger here from CV.
If you want to get the shot. Your choice....
Do you realize there are other vaccines that kids must have to go to school in CT? You and I had to had to get them too.

Other things that are not our choice for our good and the public good.....
Seat belts
Speed limits and all traffic laws
No smoking in public places
No drinking while driving
Child seats in cars
Vaccinations for school (see below)

I am sure there are many more things but I can't think of them right now.


IMMUNIZATION REQUIREMENTS FOR ENROLLED
STUDENTS IN CONNECTICUT SCHOOLS 2020-2021 SCHOOL YEAR
https://portal.ct.gov/-/media/SDE/Sc...quirements.pdf

PRESCHOOL
Hep B: 3 doses, last one on or after 24
weeks of age
DTaP: 4 doses (by 18 months for programs
with children 18 months of age)
Polio: 3 doses (by 18 months for programs
with children 18 months of age)
MMR: 1 dose on or after 1st birthday
Varicella: 1 dose on or after 1st birthday or
verification of disease
Hepatitis A: 2 doses given six calendar months apart, 1st dose on or after 1st birthday
Hib: 1 dose on or after 1st birthday
Pneumococcal: 1 dose on or after 1st birthday
Influenza: 1 dose administered each year between August 1st-December 31st
(2 doses separated by at least 28 days required for those receiving flu for
the first time)

KINDERGARTEN
Hep B: 3 doses, last dose on or after 24 weeks of age
DTaP: At least 4 doses. The last dose must be given on or after 4th birthday
Polio: At least 3 doses. The last dose must be given on or after 4th birthday
MMR: 2 doses separated by at least 28 days, 1st dose on or after 1st birthday
Varicella: 2 doses separated by at least 3 months-1
st dose on or after 1st birthday;
or verification of disease. 28 days between doses is acceptable if the
doses have already been administered.
Hepatitis A: 2 doses given six calendar months apart, 1st dose on or after 1st birthday
Hib: 1 dose on or after 1st birthday for children less than 5 years old
Pneumococcal: 1 dose on or after 1st birthday for children less than 5 years old

GRADES 1-6
Hep B: 3 doses, last dose on or after 24 weeks of age
DTaP/Td: At least 4 doses. The last dose must be given on or after 4th birthday.
Students who start the series at age 7 or older only need a total of 3
doses.
Polio: At least 3 doses. The last dose must be given on or after 4th birthday
MMR: 2 doses separated by at least 28 days, 1st dose on or after 1st birthday
Varicella: 2 doses separated by at least 3 months-1
st dose on or after 1st birthday;
or verification of disease. 28 days between doses is acceptable if the
doses have already been administered.
Hepatitis A: 2 doses given six calendar months apart, 1st dose on or after 1st birthday

GRADE 7-8
Hep B: 3 doses, last dose on or after 24 weeks of age
Tdap/Td: 1 dose for students who have completed their primary DTaP series.
Students who start the series at age 7 or older only need 3 doses of
tetanus-diphtheria containing vaccine, one of which must be Tdap
Polio: At least 3 doses. The last dose must be given on or after 4th birthday
MMR: 2 doses separated by at least 28 days, 1st dose on or after 1st birthday
Varicella: 2 doses separated by at least 3 months-1
st dose on or after 1st birthday;
or verification of disease. 28 days between doses is acceptable if the
doses have already been administered.
Hepatitis A: 2 doses given six calendar months apart, 1st dose on or after 1st birthday
Meningococcal: 1 dose

2
GRADES 9-12
Hep B: 3 doses, last dose on or after 24 weeks of age
Tdap/Td: 1 dose for students who have completed their primary DTaP series.
Students who start the series at age 7 or older only need 3 doses of
tetanus-diphtheria containing vaccine, one of which must be Tdap
Polio: At least 3 doses. The last dose must be given on or after 4th birthday
MMR: 2 doses separated by at least 28 days, 1st dose on or after 1st birthday
Varicella: 2 doses separated by at least 3 months-1
st dose on or after 1st birthday;
or verification of disease. 28 days between doses is acceptable if the
doses have already been administered.
Meningococcal: 1 dose
 DTaP vaccine is not administered on or after the 7
th birt
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Old 09-02-2021, 08:20 AM
 
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Spot on. Between the number of vaccinated individuals and those with some level of current immunity from having contracted Covid, the Northeast is unlikely to see any significant increase in hospitalizations going forward.



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They'll increase some for the unvaccinated but it will be manageable numbers. CT is learning to live with it. They're doing a great job up here.
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Old 09-02-2021, 08:34 AM
 
Location: Woburn, MA / W. Hartford, CT
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Do you realize there are other vaccines that kids must have to go to school in CT? You and I had to had to get them too.

Other things that are not our choice for our good and the public good.....
Seat belts
Speed limits and all traffic laws
No smoking in public places
No drinking while driving
Child seats in cars
Vaccinations for school (see below)

I am sure there are many more things but I can't think of them right now.


IMMUNIZATION REQUIREMENTS FOR ENROLLED
STUDENTS IN CONNECTICUT SCHOOLS 2020-2021 SCHOOL YEAR
https://portal.ct.gov/-/media/SDE/Sc...quirements.pdf

PRESCHOOL
Hep B: 3 doses, last one on or after 24
weeks of age
DTaP: 4 doses (by 18 months for programs
with children 18 months of age)
Polio: 3 doses (by 18 months for programs
with children 18 months of age)
MMR: 1 dose on or after 1st birthday
Varicella: 1 dose on or after 1st birthday or
verification of disease
Hepatitis A: 2 doses given six calendar months apart, 1st dose on or after 1st birthday
Hib: 1 dose on or after 1st birthday
Pneumococcal: 1 dose on or after 1st birthday
Influenza: 1 dose administered each year between August 1st-December 31st
(2 doses separated by at least 28 days required for those receiving flu for
the first time)

KINDERGARTEN
Hep B: 3 doses, last dose on or after 24 weeks of age
DTaP: At least 4 doses. The last dose must be given on or after 4th birthday
Polio: At least 3 doses. The last dose must be given on or after 4th birthday
MMR: 2 doses separated by at least 28 days, 1st dose on or after 1st birthday
Varicella: 2 doses separated by at least 3 months-1
st dose on or after 1st birthday;
or verification of disease. 28 days between doses is acceptable if the
doses have already been administered.
Hepatitis A: 2 doses given six calendar months apart, 1st dose on or after 1st birthday
Hib: 1 dose on or after 1st birthday for children less than 5 years old
Pneumococcal: 1 dose on or after 1st birthday for children less than 5 years old

GRADES 1-6
Hep B: 3 doses, last dose on or after 24 weeks of age
DTaP/Td: At least 4 doses. The last dose must be given on or after 4th birthday.
Students who start the series at age 7 or older only need a total of 3
doses.
Polio: At least 3 doses. The last dose must be given on or after 4th birthday
MMR: 2 doses separated by at least 28 days, 1st dose on or after 1st birthday
Varicella: 2 doses separated by at least 3 months-1
st dose on or after 1st birthday;
or verification of disease. 28 days between doses is acceptable if the
doses have already been administered.
Hepatitis A: 2 doses given six calendar months apart, 1st dose on or after 1st birthday

GRADE 7-8
Hep B: 3 doses, last dose on or after 24 weeks of age
Tdap/Td: 1 dose for students who have completed their primary DTaP series.
Students who start the series at age 7 or older only need 3 doses of
tetanus-diphtheria containing vaccine, one of which must be Tdap
Polio: At least 3 doses. The last dose must be given on or after 4th birthday
MMR: 2 doses separated by at least 28 days, 1st dose on or after 1st birthday
Varicella: 2 doses separated by at least 3 months-1
st dose on or after 1st birthday;
or verification of disease. 28 days between doses is acceptable if the
doses have already been administered.
Hepatitis A: 2 doses given six calendar months apart, 1st dose on or after 1st birthday
Meningococcal: 1 dose

2
GRADES 9-12
Hep B: 3 doses, last dose on or after 24 weeks of age
Tdap/Td: 1 dose for students who have completed their primary DTaP series.
Students who start the series at age 7 or older only need 3 doses of
tetanus-diphtheria containing vaccine, one of which must be Tdap
Polio: At least 3 doses. The last dose must be given on or after 4th birthday
MMR: 2 doses separated by at least 28 days, 1st dose on or after 1st birthday
Varicella: 2 doses separated by at least 3 months-1
st dose on or after 1st birthday;
or verification of disease. 28 days between doses is acceptable if the
doses have already been administered.
Meningococcal: 1 dose
 DTaP vaccine is not administered on or after the 7
th birt
THANK YOU. I'm sure this took some time to cut & paste, but it's well worth the reminder...that we live with and have accepted far more onerous requirements. Heck, in fall of 2020, Gov. Baker even made flu shots mandatory for schoolchildren in MA!
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Old 09-02-2021, 08:38 AM
 
Location: Coastal Connecticut
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Vaccine will protect you from bad outcomes is your argument.
So not a valid comparison above.

Vaccinated individuals still can spread infection....

Also it's interesting to see how the left throw away arguments that no longer suit the agenda.
It does reduce spread. You’re less likely to have symptoms, shorter duration, less viral shedding in most cases.

Yes, it’s possible to transmit and have as much viral load as unvaccinated but that’s in BREAKTHROUGH CASES ONLY. It’s not a rule. The CDC really messed up the communications and fueled anti vaccine sentiment
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Old 09-02-2021, 08:42 AM
 
Location: Fairfield County CT
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Vaccine will protect you from bad outcomes is your argument.
So not a valid comparison above.

Vaccinated individuals still can spread infection....

Also it's interesting to see how the left throw away arguments that no longer suit the agenda.
"the left throw away arguments that no longer suit the agenda"

To the scientist and doctors this IS NOT about politics or a political party*.

Do you now why they call this the "novel" coronavirus?

"Coronaviruses are a large family of viruses that can cause illness ranging from the common cold to more severe diseases. A “novel” coronavirus (nCoV) is a new strain that has not been previously identified in humans"
https://www.brgeneral.org/news-blog/...onavirus-mean-

I have Crohn's Disease and my specialists are at Mount Sinai in NYC. I am on medication right now because of a flare. I am still asking them questions. I wanted to go to a mini-concert (500 seats) my brother is playing in. I contacted one of my doctors to see if I can go see my brother and this is what he wrote to me......
"We still don't know all about this virus. To be on the safe side don't go to the concert".

The scientists and doctors are STILL learning about Covid as I am writing this and will be studying it for many years to come.

BTW my doctor did not ask me what political party I was before he gave his advice.

*For the record I am an Independent
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Old 09-02-2021, 09:02 AM
 
Location: Woburn, MA / W. Hartford, CT
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Originally Posted by Stepfordct View Post
Vaccine will protect you from bad outcomes is your argument.
So not a valid comparison above.

Vaccinated individuals still can spread infection....

Also it's interesting to see how the left throw away arguments that no longer suit the agenda.
Note how you immediately attributed a left/right implication here? Therein lies the problem.

The only "agenda" is getting back to normalcy, if not 2019 conditions, as far as public health. I think and hope you would share attainment of that agenda. There is no ulterior motive nor satisfaction derived in "prolonging" the pandemic or "control" by requiring people to cover their faces.
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Old 09-02-2021, 09:15 AM
 
Location: USA
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Originally Posted by CTartist View Post
Do you realize there are other vaccines that kids must have to go to school in CT? You and I had to had to get them too.

Other things that are not our choice for our good and the public good.....
Seat belts
Speed limits and all traffic laws
No smoking in public places
No drinking while driving
Child seats in cars
Vaccinations for school (see below)

I am sure there are many more things but I can't think of them right now.


IMMUNIZATION REQUIREMENTS FOR ENROLLED
STUDENTS IN CONNECTICUT SCHOOLS 2020-2021 SCHOOL YEAR
https://portal.ct.gov/-/media/SDE/Sc...quirements.pdf

PRESCHOOL
Hep B: 3 doses, last one on or after 24
weeks of age
DTaP: 4 doses (by 18 months for programs
with children 18 months of age)
Polio: 3 doses (by 18 months for programs
with children 18 months of age)
MMR: 1 dose on or after 1st birthday
Varicella: 1 dose on or after 1st birthday or
verification of disease
Hepatitis A: 2 doses given six calendar months apart, 1st dose on or after 1st birthday
Hib: 1 dose on or after 1st birthday
Pneumococcal: 1 dose on or after 1st birthday
Influenza: 1 dose administered each year between August 1st-December 31st
(2 doses separated by at least 28 days required for those receiving flu for
the first time)

KINDERGARTEN
Hep B: 3 doses, last dose on or after 24 weeks of age
DTaP: At least 4 doses. The last dose must be given on or after 4th birthday
Polio: At least 3 doses. The last dose must be given on or after 4th birthday
MMR: 2 doses separated by at least 28 days, 1st dose on or after 1st birthday
Varicella: 2 doses separated by at least 3 months-1
st dose on or after 1st birthday;
or verification of disease. 28 days between doses is acceptable if the
doses have already been administered.
Hepatitis A: 2 doses given six calendar months apart, 1st dose on or after 1st birthday
Hib: 1 dose on or after 1st birthday for children less than 5 years old
Pneumococcal: 1 dose on or after 1st birthday for children less than 5 years old

GRADES 1-6
Hep B: 3 doses, last dose on or after 24 weeks of age
DTaP/Td: At least 4 doses. The last dose must be given on or after 4th birthday.
Students who start the series at age 7 or older only need a total of 3
doses.
Polio: At least 3 doses. The last dose must be given on or after 4th birthday
MMR: 2 doses separated by at least 28 days, 1st dose on or after 1st birthday
Varicella: 2 doses separated by at least 3 months-1
st dose on or after 1st birthday;
or verification of disease. 28 days between doses is acceptable if the
doses have already been administered.
Hepatitis A: 2 doses given six calendar months apart, 1st dose on or after 1st birthday

GRADE 7-8
Hep B: 3 doses, last dose on or after 24 weeks of age
Tdap/Td: 1 dose for students who have completed their primary DTaP series.
Students who start the series at age 7 or older only need 3 doses of
tetanus-diphtheria containing vaccine, one of which must be Tdap
Polio: At least 3 doses. The last dose must be given on or after 4th birthday
MMR: 2 doses separated by at least 28 days, 1st dose on or after 1st birthday
Varicella: 2 doses separated by at least 3 months-1
st dose on or after 1st birthday;
or verification of disease. 28 days between doses is acceptable if the
doses have already been administered.
Hepatitis A: 2 doses given six calendar months apart, 1st dose on or after 1st birthday
Meningococcal: 1 dose

2
GRADES 9-12
Hep B: 3 doses, last dose on or after 24 weeks of age
Tdap/Td: 1 dose for students who have completed their primary DTaP series.
Students who start the series at age 7 or older only need 3 doses of
tetanus-diphtheria containing vaccine, one of which must be Tdap
Polio: At least 3 doses. The last dose must be given on or after 4th birthday
MMR: 2 doses separated by at least 28 days, 1st dose on or after 1st birthday
Varicella: 2 doses separated by at least 3 months-1
st dose on or after 1st birthday;
or verification of disease. 28 days between doses is acceptable if the
doses have already been administered.
Meningococcal: 1 dose
 DTaP vaccine is not administered on or after the 7
th birt
There's workarounds when it comes to school. Many parents are against vaccinating their children and they still attend. This was before Covid so nothing to do with the politics and freedom fighters. Maybe with some it's religious exemption. I don't know

CT is doing a great job. The recent mask mandates were much ado about nothing, basically one final attempt at a Grandstand. It's a wink-wink now. I see many unmasked in places still but there's less pushback. No one really cares. Stores and restaurants could be in violation but no ones checking.
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