[BPt111]

When the our first snowstorm and real cold I talking about North Pole wind chills.

[jbgusa]

Originally Posted by Cambium

Meteorological winter started yesterday, and by pretty much every metric (temperature, snowfall, daylight, plant growth) that makes a lot more sense than saying winter starts on "Dec 21st".

But there is "climatological" winter?

Joe D'Aleo used to define winter as December 6 to March 6, and summer June 6 to September 6. While frigid or torrid weather, respectively, can occur outside those bands, typically, in New York, that is the boundary of, say, single digits in winter, or 95+ in summer. Yes, I know it hit 97 in May 1969, 99 in May 1962 and a few other similar one-day wonders, but as a rule extremely cold or hot stays within those boundaries, and upper nineties or single digits are rare outside of them.

[7 Wishes]

Originally Posted by jbgusa

Joe D'Aleo used to define winter as December 6 to March 6, and summer June 6 to September 6. While frigid or torrid weather, respectively, can occur outside those bands, typically, in New York, that is the boundary of, say, single digits in winter, or 95+ in summer. Yes, I know it hit 97 in May 1969, 99 in May 1962 and a few other similar one-day wonders, but as a rule extremely cold or hot stays within those boundaries, and upper nineties or single digits are rare outside of them.

And on the other end there's 8 degrees on March 19, 1967 and 9 degrees on December 3, 1976 but your point is well taken and I find this definition quite interesting. There's also several 95+ in April (though usually a freakish 3 day period grouped together as in 1976 and 2002), but no need to nitpick, again completely agree.

[jbgusa]

Originally Posted by 7 Wishes

And on the other end there's 8 degrees on March 19, 1967 and 9 degrees on December 3, 1976 but your point is well taken and I find this definition quite interesting. There's also several 95+ in April (though usually a freakish 3 day period grouped together as in 1976 and 2002), but no need to nitpick, again completely agree.

The official heat waves in 1976, 2002 and 2009 are made possible by the dry ground and unleafed vegetation. You will notice that after the mid-April spate of 96 records in 1976 and 2002 the record daily highs drop back mostly to the upper 80's and lower 90's until the middle of May. All it takes is a northwesterly flow to hold off the sea breezes and a moderately warm "Bermuda High" anchored slightly inland. Not easy to get those combinations.

Edited to add that in 1976, the April heat wave basically robbed us of summer. However, 2002 was one of the hottest summers of New York City history.

[Cambium]

Anyone on the road tonight?? WOW the fog is thick!

Under 1/2 mile visibility widespread.

1/8 for Islip, NY and Chester, CT

[7 Wishes]

Originally Posted by jbgusa

Edited to add that in 1976, the April heat wave basically robbed us of summer. However, 2002 was one of the hottest summers of New York City history.

Interesting point in that 2009 (which had 90s in April, I didn't mention it because it didn't go over 95, which I think only happened in 1976 and 2002) was one of the coolest summers in decades as well. No 90+ temps occurred in both June and July, which only happened 3 other times (2000, 1889, 1875)

[simonusa3]

Originally Posted by 7 Wishes

And on the other end there's 8 degrees on March 19, 1967 and 9 degrees on December 3, 1976 but your point is well taken and I find this definition quite interesting. There's also several 95+ in April (though usually a freakish 3 day period grouped together as in 1976 and 2002), but no need to nitpick, again completely agree.

I remember the 2002 heat in April. I put the AC in lol.

I always thought it’s a bit tough to use any one number (within reason) to define as hot or cold. To some people, when the temp hits 80 F it’s summer, to some people when it hit 70 F it’s summer. Look at around here, most of us would consider early June as full-on summer – and the average high in early June in in the low/mid 70’s F at NWS Bridgeport. If you use that criteria for example (70’s F as summer type weather) …many times we have had stretches of summer weather outside the May – October months. Look at just last November, we had a stretch of 70’s F for a few days in the early part of the month.

Same would go for cold weather. I’ll bet you could find several short stretches of overnight low temps in the 20’s F in April or maybe October.

[Cambium]

Another Rainy Sunday. Not many full weekends without precip since end of August

Only weekends Sept 2-3, Nov 4-5, & Nov 11-12


Saturday Aug 26 (morning)
Saturday Sept 10 (morning)
Saturday Sept 16 (evening)
Saturday Sept 23 (all day)
Saturday Sept 30 (morning)
Saturday Oct 7 (all day)
Saturday Oct 14 (all day)
Saturday Oct 21 (morning)
Sunday Oct 29 (all day)
Saturday Nov 18 (Light shower overnight)
Sunday Nov 26 (Evening rain)
Sunday Dec 3 (all day)

[Cambium]

Funny stat of the day.

It's been over 4700 days that Hartford hasn't gotten 16 inches of snow in 1 day, that's the 2nd longest streak. But because they weren't reporting snow in the late 1990s I think something is off with that. On Dec 29, 1945 they got 17.7", Feb 12, 2006 with 21.9"



Meanwhile Bridgeport is waiting for 3 inches of snow still. It's been 657 days! In 13 days it will be the 2nd longest streak

[jbgusa]

Originally Posted by 7 Wishes

Interesting point in that 2009 (which had 90s in April, I didn't mention it because it didn't go over 95, which I think only happened in 1976 and 2002) was one of the coolest summers in decades as well. No 90+ temps occurred in both June and July, which only happened 3 other times (2000, 1889, 1875)

Quite right. And I think that the 2009 heat wave did not make 95 was its lateness in April.