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Gun ban likely has prevented a lot of these incidents when people lose control, anger take over - and the consequence are what we saw yesterday. I totally disagree with your post.
Disagree all you want. Gun Free Zones are easy kill zones. Do you think a person with bad intentions is going to go where just about everybody or almost everybody is armed? Hell no!
Disagree all you want. Gun Free Zones are easy kill zones. Do you think a person with bad intentions is going to go where just about everybody or almost everybody is armed? Hell no!
Sure. Is that why so many people die from guns on gun free planes and airports every year? Using your logic they should be some of the most dangerous places to be then and yet the opposite is true.
Sure. Is that why so many people die from guns on gun free planes and airports every year? Using your logic they should be some of the most dangerous places to be then and yet the opposite is true.
Silly argument to make when there is active screening for weapons at airports.
A much better argument to make would be related to the safety of gun free school zones.
Sad!
Not to sound naive, but why is there so much gun violence in America? We are probably the only western nation that doesn't introspect hard enough.
Yes why would the military need those guns they use?
Why is a person with mental illness allowed to continue to serve? Would it be acceptable for them to be sent into war with mental illness? (Presuming that all those in the military should be battle-ready.)
Why aren't soldiers able to carry firearms on base? If we don't trust them in a peacetime military base, how would we trust them in a conflict zone? Seem to me that soldiers should be required to carry arms at all times. If they are not mentally able, they should not be in the military.
If all soldiers carried firearms at all our military bases, we'd have so many accidental discharges, it comes down to probability, not lack of training or responsibility. There is a big difference between carrying a weapon in combat or combat zone and on a military base in the States. The functions and activities military personnel are engaged in while on a military base in the US are different than those carried out while deployed. It just wouldn't work very well.
It has nothing to do with trust, it has everything to do with the nature of the routine activities soldiers will engage in considering the two different environments.
The soldier with a mental illness remains in the military while undergoing treatment. The military can control if they are or are not deployed to a combat zone. Just because someone is afflicted with a mental illness doesn't mean they will always be so. The idea that they will always remain unsuitable means we also accept the mental illness is not treatable. If the soldier is found to be unfit for military service in any capacity and can't be treated to a degree that makes them fit, they can be discharged but at least provide them with the dignity, honor and treatment we demand everyone else gets. To do less is making the soldier a 2nd class citizen, that is unacceptable.
The rules of engagement are radically different between soldiers and the police. The mindset is different too. It just wouldn't work and in any case, highly doubtful it would have made a difference. The guy got his shots off pretty quick and the last thing you want is an entire base of soldiers walking round combat equipped on the edge waiting for something. Of course, that is the effect of the two shootings anyway but there is another answer.
There will always be the individual who can defeat any security measures, always.
Sad!
Not to sound naive, but why is there so much gun violence in America? We are probably the only western nation that doesn't introspect hard enough.
Sure. Is that why so many people die from guns on gun free planes and airports every year? Using your logic they should be some of the most dangerous places to be then and yet the opposite is true.
Yes why would the military need those guns they use?
If it were so simple, this would happen in every base in not just the US, but the whole world. But this seems to happen only in the US. So your head banger doesn't make sense, after all.
Nope, that is the call of the NRA which only makes things worse. It isn't the people, there will always be people who do things contrary to law and so on. We can blame people all we want and say it is the bad apples. That works in some instances where you have shooters like those that walk into schools and so one and kill a bunch of people and who know exactly what they are doing. That also applies to the criminal elements that use guns.
The person who has a mental illness while not excusing the act of murder isn't the point of failure. Anyone can become ill because of a mental problem or even a physical one that affects them mentally. In those cases and this one too, the safeguards we have established aren't sufficient to deal with the problem.
If it turns out, the shooter had a mental problem it was the procedures and policies that weren't adequate to prevent the tragedy that allowed the events to happen. We have more traffic at our airports than any military base in the US yet the same procedures we use to at airports isn't available at our military bases and in case no one is looking, our military bases are as large a target as anything else.
The guy bought the gun legally, according to reports. In essence, because no one seems to be able to figure it out, someone under the care of mental health professionals and up for PTSD evaluation was able to buy a gun. Why is that so? Could he have obtained a gun otherwise? Perhaps but we'll never know will we?
This isn't about a 2nd amendment right as some might say, no one is talking about taking away the rights of anyone but this is about insuring the rights of everyone are guaranteed, including the 2nd amendment.
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