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Old 10-08-2014, 08:20 PM
 
Location: Cartersville, GA
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It was, but what she had was not "routine." It was a complex operation.
This is true, per a Wikipedia article.

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According to court documents, McMath was admitted to Children's Hospital Oakland on December 9, 2013 to perform an adenotonsillectomy, uvulopalatopharyngoplasty and submucous resection of bilateral inferior turbinates. It was hoped these procedures would provide improved airflow during her sleep at night. The family described the surgery as a routine tonsillectomy, while the hospital described the procedure as complicated in court documents.
I am not a physcian, but "... an adenotonsillectomy, uvulopalatopharyngoplasty and submucous resection of bilateral inferior turbinates" seems to be pretty complex.

According to a Neurologist's opinion that was submitted to the Court today, there is still no clear evidence of life. The hearing that was scheduled for tomorrow has been postponed, but in the end, I seriously doubt the Court will declare her to be resurrected.

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Old 10-08-2014, 09:17 PM
 
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I watched the video and all I saw a twitch. I think the family feels a lot of guilt for feeding her in the recovery room which could be what triggered the bleeding. Also if they had managed her weight better she wouldn't have needed the surgery but at some point they have to let her go.
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Old 10-08-2014, 09:23 PM
 
Location: Geneva, IL
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I found this article very interesting and recommend reading the entire thing but 2 points worth noting:

1) What Jahi is receiving now is organ support, not life support.

2) What is brain death? It means no function at the level of the brain stem or above. The spinal cord is still capable of reflexes as shown in the video. These are not proof of brain activity.

Analyzing the Jahi McMath case

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Old 10-08-2014, 09:33 PM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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Thanks, Zimbo. The essay says it well.
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Old 10-08-2014, 09:39 PM
 
Location: Cartersville, GA
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I found this article very interesting, I recommend reading the entire thing, but 2 points worth noting:

1) What Jahi is receiving now is organ support, not life support.

2) What is brain death? It means no function at the level of the brain stem or above. The spinal cord is still capable of reflexes as shown in the video. These are not proof of brain activity.

Analyzing the Jahi McMath case
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Thanks, Zimbo. The essay says it well.
Indeed! A very concise, and accurate description.
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Old 10-09-2014, 05:21 AM
 
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I found this article very interesting and recommend reading the entire thing but 2 points worth noting:

1) What Jahi is receiving now is organ support, not life support.

2) What is brain death? It means no function at the level of the brain stem or above. The spinal cord is still capable of reflexes as shown in the video. These are not proof of brain activity.

Analyzing the Jahi McMath case
Excellent article, thank you for recommending. I don't work in the medical field so I learned a lot. Does anyone know if she is declared alive if Medicaid will automatically start picking up the cost of her care? has the family exhausted their insurance? How much will her long term care cost? Will she be in a hospital or more like a nursing home situation?
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Old 10-09-2014, 02:43 PM
 
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All 3rd party payments stopped when she was declared dead. Her care is being funded through donations which seem to be running out.
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Old 10-11-2014, 12:55 AM
 
Location: middle of everywhere
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I read on another forum that the other children are being taken care of by relatives. Makes you wonder what they think about this whole ordeal.

The mother posted Instagram pictures of Jahi's $240 a week vitamin upkeep.

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Old 10-12-2014, 12:26 PM
 
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I watched the video and all I saw a twitch. I think the family feels a lot of guilt for feeding her in the recovery room which could be what triggered the bleeding. Also if they had managed her weight better she wouldn't have needed the surgery but at some point they have to let her go.
Agreed. When I first saw the poor kid, I thought she needed weight loss, not surgery. Sleep apnea is worsened by obesity. I feel bad for her. Her family should just let her go.
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Old 10-12-2014, 03:18 PM
 
Location: Carmichael, CA
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Just saw a local story and the court-ordered doctor says he does not see any signs of actual life and will be reporting that to the court. Now the family wants him removed as an expert because he was one of the original doctors to say that she was dead (and also is not saying what they want him to say.)

And this drags on.
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