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Actually, you should try reading that article again because it doesn't say what you think it does. The problem is, like most people, you read articles hoping they prove your point, so you completely ignore what they say. Here are his points, which I agree with:
- If you get a POSITIVE allergy test and yet display no real-life allergy symptoms, then it doesn't mean you are allergic.
- Don't get tested for something that you don't have allergies to, since that's pointless.
- There are also false NEGATIVES, which is true of all tests. These can be increased if you take medications that reduce your allergic reaction, such as anti-histamines.
Now, all of those points are common sense. And yet you decided to self-extrapolate and interpret that to mean that allergy tests are irrelevant and you can just say you have an allergy without being tested and then you can claim that any reaction you want equals an allergy. I am 100% sure that if you contacted the author of that article and told him that, he'd laugh at you and then hang up the phone.
Right, I don't even know what you're referring to right now. What I said was that some guy claimed that if a chicken eats a gluten product and then lays an egg and he eats the egg, then he could have a reaction to the gluten that the chicken ate. And that's now how anything works. Like I said, you seem to like to selectively read things and then discard everything that was written and then just reinterpret it to mean whatever you wanted it to mean. Don't worry, you're not alone, lots of people do that.
Sigh. You don't understand at all, do you. I won't go into the nuts and bolts because I know you're not reading and not comprehending, but allergy refers to a certain type of reaction, but it is not the only type of reaction. You can become very sick, and even die from non-allergic reactions to antigens. These non-allergicreactions are called intolerances. One intolerance you may be familiar with is coeliac disease. It destroys the villi in the small intestine. The article which you didn't bother to read points out that tests like patch tests for allergies only look for histamine/IgE reactions, they don't test for intolerance, and since intolerances or non-IgE allergies can cause symptoms the patch test will be falsely negative for that food. There are also false positives which means the patch test gives a reaction to an antigen, but the person can eat/use/be exposed to that thing without any problems. Patch tests, as the article says, are not definitive and are of very limited usefulness, mainly as a screening tool to narrow down where to start looking for allergens.
Which is my point, you were wrong when you claimed there was some test which was the only way to legitimately have reason to exclude a food.
I was at a funeral in August. We were all sitting sobbing our guts out when the priest invited everyone, not just church members, to come up to take communion "because we are all God's children." At that moment, the mourner next to me pointed solemnly to the program in my lap, that announced "WE HAVE GLUTEN-FREE WAFERS." That was a badly-needed laugh, I'll tell you.
For those of us Celiacs and gluten sensitive types who cherish partaking in Communion the availability of GF wafers is hugely appreciated. And printing it in the program is a great idea...easily resolves the question we always have when at a new church. But I am glad you found it an opportunity for laughter...we all need more laughs and it's great for the immune system.
I think if you talk with anyone with celiac or a gluten intolerance, you'll find that they lived around the symptoms and at least for me, it changed my life when I was diagnosed.
This. I went many years with problems that I just accepted to be my "normal" because there was no explanation, and nothing I tried helped. Until I cut out gluten. There is a drastic difference in the way I feel.
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Originally Posted by thedwightguy Soya sauce, bragging about being "gluten free"
and then comes the kicker: SALT 40%%%%%
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Originally Posted by WildColonialGirl
You mean tamari, and there is no gluten in salt.
I think thedwightguy meant soy sauce and that soy sauce contains 40% salt...ouch! But then all regular soy sauce is naturally very high in salt.
We Celiacs used to have to pay big bucks for tamari at the natural food store as a GF soy sauce substitute but now there actually are name brand GF soy sauces. Thank you Kikkoman and La Choy!
I know some folks out there don't believe that this is a genuine health problem. Oh, celiac disease is real, alright. Just try spending a full day vomiting your guts out after eating a bowl of pasta, and then we'll see who thinks it is media created.
I suspect it may be genetic. One theory is that the disease may have it's origin in hybridizing wheat with grasses that are merely related. Proteins and such that humans are not accustomed to eating became a part of the wheat plant hybrids we cultivate today and so a part of our diet. Since our bodies can't handle the proteins, the disease results. I dunno, any botanists or researchers on board who can substantiate this? I have also read that ancient wheat contained less gluten than modern wheat.
I've had the signs for celiac for over 30 years but no one thought to have me tested for celiac disease.
I spend the first 40 years of my life being severely underweight, fighting migraines, IBS, extreme intestinal bloating, until I turned 40 and the weight loss turned into weight gain and the IBS, bloating, and migraines hospitalized me.
I think if you talk with anyone with celiac or a gluten intolerance, you'll find that they lived around the symptoms and at least for me, it changed my life when I was diagnosed.
Finally I'm a normal weight even though I've been an athlete and marathon runner most of my life.
I can eat without feeling like my stomach was exploding.
This is my last comment on this topic.
I think your name fits you well.
Similar story here. As a child when I complained of daily severe tummy aches and a bunch of other stuff...which surely frustrated my poor parents since I was cleared as healthy by the family doctor...my parents decided I was making it all up in order to avoid going to school. I was pretty frustrated myself when nobody believed me. And I liked school fine! I also drove my mom beyond crazy as an extremely "colicky" baby when it was likely my Celiac doing a number on my poor baby tummy.
28 years later...after a boyfriend convinced me that my stuff was *not* normal and pushed me to a GI specialist...and an extremely fortunate diagnosis of Celiac via biopsy in an age when it was still very difficult to diagnose, and all that crap vanished. Lifechanger for sure.
I know some folks out there don't believe that this is a genuine health problem. Oh, celiac disease is real, alright. Just try spending a full day vomiting your guts out after eating a bowl of pasta, and then we'll see who thinks it is media created.
I suspect it may be genetic. One theory is that the disease may have it's origin in hybridizing wheat with grasses that are merely related. Proteins and such that humans are not accustomed to eating became a part of the wheat plant hybrids we cultivate today and so a part of our diet. Since our bodies can't handle the proteins, the disease results. I dunno, any botanists or researchers on board who can substantiate this? I have also read that ancient wheat contained less gluten than modern wheat.
There is indeed a genetic component (correlation with certain genes for the Human Leukocyte Antigens of the Major Histocompatibility Complex) to Celiac: Celiac disease - Genetics Home Reference
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