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Amen, southbel, the ex cop lied cause he knew he had executed someone posing no danger to him. He is also shown in the video planting evidence. The only question, much like the Boston Bomber, equally a felon, is the severity of the sentence to follow. If Slager gets to see his grandchildren born, he'll have gotten off lucky for him.
If he pleads anything but guilty, all in the courtroom will have to stifle their laughter.
The Law says that an Officer can shoot a Fleeing Felon he believes to be an immediate threat to others.
If Scott fought the Officer and tried to take his weapon, then it is perfectly reasonable to consider him a threat to public safety. If he was panicked and foolish (and possibly intoxicated) enough to run and then fight and then run again he certainly could have raced into traffic, or broken into a home to take a hostage, or any number of irrational criminal actions that could have caused great harm or death to innocents.
If he misreported details due to being stressed and possibly disoriented from being attacked by Scott (perhaps he was injured?) then he should reasonably be expecting an appropriate punishment for these mistakes, but that is a far cry from being charged with Murder if the facts come out to show that Scott fought with the Officer and tried to disarm him.
And let's not forget Scott WAS driving an unregistered uninsured car while unlicensed, possibly intoxicated, and he had Arrest Warrants for abandoning FOUR children, AND a broken tailight. A broken tailight can easily cause a deadly car accident even if the driver has a valid liscense, INS, and is not intoxicated. Officer Slager could have actually saved Scott's life by pulling him over for that broken tailight if he hadn't attempted to flee the encounter and then possibly assaulted the Officer.
Besides trying to add in a lot of information that isn't remotely true or proven, you're forgetting one unassailable fact. My grandmother could have caught Scott he was running so slow. That cop unloaded on Scott and as a result, he is sitting in jail. I particularly like how you want to attribute 'stress' to the cop getting the story completely wrong (otherwise known as lying). Shot in close range? Nope. Shot once? Nope. Performed CPR? Nope. Ah, but he was just stressed and that's why he lied - yeah right.
I should clarify when I say "running away" I mean initially when the officer had returned to his car and Scott jumped out of his Mercedes (!) and fled.
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Great post. Many people think we're in a "new age" where social order does not matter. I've had responses such as "who sets the social order?"
I was always taught that it was OK to shoot a fleeing criminal to wound, not to kill. Likely the officer went too far, unless of course he's not sure if the suspect's flight was stopped. But any suspect who draws a shot for the purpose of "wounding" him might be badly hurt.
When people reply to logic and facts with name-calling and accusations it makes it pretty obvious that the logic and facts are correct, and the person hurling insults knows it.
We don't know the facts yet. We have 2 videos, and considering the fact that the main stream media has been caught manipulating evidence in the very recent past the videos are highly suspect.
If Scott fought the police and tried to take the Officer's weapon his killing was legally justified.
I have had these exact same arguments in recent years with people like you over the Trayvon case and the Brown case and the smug, haughty, mocking, sarcastic, name-calling posters (like the ones here) were dead wrong on all counts.
When events like this happen, people need to stop INSTANTLY rushing to judgement because they are eager to vilify the police.
You're partly right, but mostly wrong.
The partly right is that there's sure to be more to what happened than we've heard. I won't be surprised at all if the guy in the car with Scott is on the shady side and something was up with the car. My Guess is the unpaid child support isn't the reason he ran.
You'll be mostly wrong because there won't be any reasonable justification for the cop to be in fear of danger to himself or others at the time he fired.
The Law says that an Officer can shoot a Fleeing Felon he believes to be an immediate threat to others.
If Scott fought the Officer and tried to take his weapon, then it is perfectly reasonable to consider him a threat to public safety. If he was panicked and foolish (and possibly intoxicaterd) enough to run and then fight and then run again he certainly could have raced into traffic, or broken into a home to take a hostage, or any number of irrational criminal actions that could have caused great harm or death to innocents.
If he misreported details due to being stressed and possibly disoriented from being attacked by Scott (perhaps he was injured?) then he should reasonably be expecting an appropriate punishment for these mistakes, but that is a far cry from being charged with Murder if the facts come out to show that Scott fought with the Officer and tried to disarm him.
And let's not forget Scott WAS driving an unregistered uninsured car while unlicensed, possibly intoxicated, and he had Arrest Warrants for abandoning FOUR children, AND a broken tailight. A broken tailight can easily cause a deadly car accident even if the driver has a valid liscense, INS, and is not intoxicated. Officer Slager could have actually saved Scott's life by pulling him over for that broken tailight if he hadn't attempted to flee the encounter and then possibly assaulted the Officer.
I appreciate you taking a global view at this incident...and I will be open to the possibility of more evidence to come out.
That being said this shooting is outside any policy or law or common sense . We can go down the road of conjecture to the end of the earth... if there was one scintilla of exculpatory evidence of the officer it would have been released because of public scrutiny.
I cannot discharge my weapon at a non active threat moving away from me and without danger to others.... it was very clear to me this was the case. It also appears something... potentially the taser was moved... I could still be OK with that in the heat of the moment and securing weapons and equipment except for the police report... I'm awaiting reading that ... there is zero room for perjury and if done as a part of a bad shoot makes the person evil...
The only way in this shoot any justification could be made would be the incapacitation of the officer... this clearly by all available evidence... did not occur....
I...of course.. want to know why... what happened to make him think he could do this ...try to justify it... and expect others... especially Leo to believe it... immediately the investigation revealed... the scene doesn't add up... and science doesnt lie
Like Rodney king this incident will be a salient moment changing police policy... it on its face is so far outside policy here I wonder what additional policy could be added. I have never experienced a warrant in the system for child support. We have other mechanisms for handling irresponsibility. Even if I encountered one.. even if the car was stolen .. even if the person struggled with me... even if the person took my taser... after I tased him... I still cannot use deadly force on him as he runs away... engaging me.. potentially... but nothing in this case rises to that... every policeman I work with would agree with this premise
Scott isn't on trial... he is dead because of a bad shoot...
Thanks
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I wonder how many previous murders are in Slager's record? With the lies he told during the aftermath of this execution, every single case he handled should be re-examined, every witness questioned again, and any resulting item which comes to light should be examined by the prosecution.
Besides trying to add in a lot of information that isn't remotely true or proven, you're forgetting one unassailable fact. My grandmother could have caught Scott he was running so slow. That cop unloaded on Scott and as a result, he is sitting in jail. I particularly like how you want to attribute 'stress' to the cop getting the story completely wrong (otherwise known as lying). Shot in close range? Nope. Shot once? Nope. Performed CPR? Nope. Ah, but he was just stressed and that's why he lied - yeah right.
After watching the video's..I'm wondering?? Just who was in fear for their life..and who had the means to kill the other?? Once anyone looks at this scenario there's No Other conclusion SMH...BTW~~ I never believed/or knew back payments regardless of how large has ever met the "Felony" level to my knowledge!!
But IF the blurry object in the video was the taser that the wanted, fleeing felon had attempted to wrestle from the Officer (and possible even had used the taser on the Officer) then it is clearly reasonable to assume that the Officer moved the weapon closer to the felon's corpse to keep a watchful eye on it so as to avoid any other thugs in the area from retrieving the weapon.
I have to admit even I got a laugh out of that one...
Ditto, Vistaian, That post was hiliarious. Maybe Scott was on the grassy Knoll in Dallas in 1963?
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