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The ani.all I was talking about was a sheep. Not a deer. A Ram, not a Buck. Different species. Desert Bighorns are a LOT less common than Mule Deer. Especially curl and a half rams, that have been hanging out for years, and have become fixtures, to locals. Especially hunters, who have agreed, , HANDS OFF, that critter. Then, some city dick, with big money, and connections, comes in and kills him. In the rams case, a local ,big money azzhole. , who didn't care what the REAL hunters in the area thought. Riff raff that we are.
He gets lost, in some blind canyon somewhere, I won't be on any team looking for him.
Yeah I can have some sympathy for the dentist if he was someone who had every intention of working within the law. However, he is the employer of his guides and given his background, he should have the background knowledge AND a working leadership background to make a proper judgement in the field. The evidence is against him.
As others have already mentioned to you, the guides used some shady methods of baiting the lion out of its safe zone in the park.
Suppose a large home builder creates a local subsidiary and knowingly hires cheap contractors who do a shoddy job of assembling those homes. If you were to buy a new home there and it starts falling apart on you, what would you think of the parent company regardless of their legal protections from liability?
On top of all this, we go back to your question that I answered where you asked why hunting lions is a big deal. Regardless of the legality of the hunt (which I think was also answered by somebody else in this thread), would a decent person be going out and hunting an endangered species to begin with?
Even if it were legal to kill an endangered species, this person's character has already been exposed by his own deliberate choices and actions. It's not as if he accidentally ended up in a position of having killed this lion.
You seem to confuse an employer with a customer.
It's like saying you should be responsible if the roofer you hired shows you a fake insurance certificate and doesn't follow proper safety regulations. Because, you see, as his employer you should know...
Anyway, since it appears the dentist had been caught poaching before, my "benefit of a doubt" is quickly evaporating.
And that is extremely vague. Did they drive through the park in a truck with a piece of meat hanging of the back with this specific lion following or did they bait outside of the park and did this lion stumble upon it?
Scenario 2 is far more likely. Tho scenario 1 is not impossible.
Beyond scenario 1 being the case I am not seeing the problem.
Baiting is not illegal in the US, it likely is not in Africa. The lion happened across their bait and got hunted. From the article they were not in the preserve.
Oh, big difference, was a national park, not a reserve. That makes a huge difference. He still had to be lured out of it to be legally killed.
"Animals cannot be killed within the confines of the park. The hunters then removed his collar – further contravening park rules."
Again. to me luring a very elderly lion who has become used to people out of his home to kill it is not a sport to me in any way, shape or form.
Called it this morning. Barring any personal knowledge of the land that is exactly what he would need to do. The character assassinations are pretty inappropriate.
And that is extremely vague. Did they drive through the park in a truck with a piece of meat hanging of the back with this specific lion following or did they bait outside of the park and did this lion stumble upon it?
Scenario 2 is far more likely. Tho scenario 1 is not impossible.
Beyond scenario 1 being the case I am not seeing the problem.
The article I read stated that they tied the baited meat to the back of the truck (maybe bumper) and with it lured him out of the park. We can only go with the information we have but it seems like you are thinking that he is the innocent one here. I do not know about in Africa but in some countries there are rules on how close the bait can be outside of a National Park.
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He still had to be lured out of it to be legally killed.
