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Old 11-12-2015, 03:31 PM
 
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Of course, it depends on one's definition of "rights", but to answer your question, when something interferes with my "right" to enjoy Christmas in the tradition I have come to expect (and that does not violate any laws), then I think that yes, my rights are being messed with.

And, to be clear, I am NOT talking about this "stupid" Starbucks controversy. That is a tempest in a coffee cup and a "brew-haha" over something really very silly. I mean, really, big deal!

However, it is just this whole "making everything PC" that has me so irritated. As I have said, I am an agnostic.
Did someone tell you that you couldn't decorate your house according to your traditions? Or go caroling? Ot send out cards? Or have a big dinner? Or go to mass if you so choose?

No?

Then no one is interfering with your traditions.
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Old 11-12-2015, 03:34 PM
 
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Yet we have "winter break" in schools which apparently coincidentally coincides with Christmas and no other holiday celebrated by a mass majority every year... Hmm.

All I'm saying is: call it Christmas break, because that's what it is. If that offends people, they need to get lives.
So since the majority believe something then screw the rest of society?

Why don't you call the break anything you want? Do the words on the school calendar really have that much effect on your enjoyment of the time with your family?
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Old 11-12-2015, 03:35 PM
 
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So since the majority believe something then screw the rest of society?
So since the minority believe in something, screw the rest of society (aka the majority)? How quickly the tables have turned on your logic.
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Old 11-12-2015, 03:37 PM
 
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So since the minority believe in something, screw the rest of society (aka the majority)? How quickly the tables have turned on your logic.
Are you offended by "winter break"? Seriously? Thicker skin.
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Old 11-12-2015, 03:40 PM
 
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Are you offended by "winter break"? Seriously? Thicker skin.
No. I'm not. I'm just baffled as to why they remove the name "Christmas" from things, as if it is sooo offensive. Fact: December 25 is Christmas. It is celebrated by a large majority, and the religious majority in this country. Yet publicly, the word has been taken away more and more over the years. Soon, it will be too un-PC to even say Christmas. It will always be "holiday" or "winter." Why is Christmas so offensive to people, that we have to change it even though it is celebrated by the majority? Why is the minority (those who don't celebrate or aren't Christian, because being religious and celebrating aren't mutually exclusive when it comes to Christmas) catered to?

Unlike many people out there, very few things actually offend me.
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Old 11-12-2015, 03:41 PM
 
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So since the minority believe in something, screw the rest of society (aka the majority)? How quickly the tables have turned on your logic.
Hmmm. I live in an area with more than just a small minority of Jews. So many live in this area that the elementary, middle, and high school are within an Eruv. I'm perfectly happy referring to the December & January vacation days as winter break, just as I am happy to use the term Spring Break, because I understand that Christmas is only one of several "holy days" celebrated in my community.
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Old 11-12-2015, 03:44 PM
 
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Hmmm. I live in an area with a significant number of Jews, not just a small minority. So many live in this area that the elementary, middle, and high school are within an Eruv. I'm perfectly happy referring to the December & January vacation days as winter break, just as I am happy to use the term Spring Break, because I understand that Christmas is only one of several "holy days" celebrated in my community.
How many holy days are celebrated December 25? Hanukkah changes each year, sometimes it starts in November and does not even coincide with Christmas.

What other holiday celebrated by many anywhere in America also falls, always, between December 24 and New Years' Day (the same time as school breaks)?...

In NJ, most districts have off for Rosh Hashanah and Yom Kippur. What's written on the calendar? Rosh Hashanah and Yom Kippur. What do we call them? "The Jewish Holidays," to make it easier. But they're referred to by their names. So what gives?
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Old 11-12-2015, 03:47 PM
 
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How many holy days are celebrated December 25? Hanukkah changes each year, sometimes it starts in November and does not even coincide with Christmas.

What other holiday celebrated by many anywhere in America also falls, always, between December 24 and New Years' Day (the same time as school breaks)?...

In NJ, most districts have off for Rosh Hashanah and Yom Kippur. What's written on the calendar? Rosh Hashanah and Yom Kippur. What do we call them? "The Jewish Holidays," to make it easier. But they're referred to by their names. So what gives?
So what? It's a break at the end of the calendar year, during which a Christian and secular holiday are celebrated. The presence or absence of Christmas, or Hanukkah for that matter, is irrelevant. Our school district also has a fall break that includes Halloween. Should we start calling that week off "Halloween Break?"
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Old 11-12-2015, 03:48 PM
 
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So what? It's a winter break at the end of the year, during which a Christian and secular holiday are celebrated. The presence or absence of Christmas is irrelevant. Our school district also has a fall break that includes Halloween. Should we start calling that week off "Halloween Break?"
Okay. Clearly you don't get it, so rather than go back and forth let's end it here.

I've made my point quite clear by now. Don't get it? Cool.
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Old 11-12-2015, 03:52 PM
 
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Okay. Clearly you don't get it, so rather than go back and forth let's end it here.

I've made my point quite clear by now. Don't get it? Cool.
I get it; I just disagree. But it's fine by me if you want to opt out of the discussion.
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