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Old 01-19-2016, 07:34 AM
 
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Left to their own prerogative, states would always build roads in their most concentrated areas. Which makes perfect sense if you're a state legislator, but does nothing to help interstate commerce and would actually force interstate traffic (e.g. tractor trailers) on to your local highways.

Interstates are built with the good of the entire nation in mind, if the Feds didn't build them they simply wouldn't get built.
So, if you were in charge of your state, you'd ignore interstate travel and put a major road block up for industry and commerce in your state?
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Old 01-19-2016, 08:38 AM
 
Location: Born & Raised DC > Carolinas > Seattle > Denver
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.05? For a smaller person, would drinking just one beer put you over the limit?!
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Old 01-19-2016, 08:39 AM
 
Location: Austin, TX
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Smart people who go out (and drive there) either:

- Don't drink while out
- Have a drink or two, but make sure that they get their drinking out of the way EARLY, long (hours) before they leave
- Have a sober friend (if available) drive him/her home
- Use Uber, Lyft or a taxi if available to get him home. He'd just have to go pick up his own car tomorrow...hopefully it wasn't impounded (some places have time limits on how long you can leave your car parked there, even if you're paying for the parking).

It is possible to have a fun and exciting night out without drinking at all or minimizing the alcohol. Many bars have non-alcoholic drinks on the menu. Other patrons may look at you oddly and think you're a pathetic weakling or something...who cares, why give a damn about them, get more self-secure.

That said, I do think that this recommendation by the feds is more strongly inspired by money and power than it is by making the United States safer on the roads.

In my experience, some of the most dangerous drivers (aside from those who are way over the legal BAC) are the ones who drive like they're lost.
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Old 01-19-2016, 10:46 AM
 
Location: Central IL
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I provided an article from a perfectly reputable source (Reuters) with a link to the abstract of a study. I'm not sure why the interest in reading the entire study, but if you really want to access it, it's available if you want to pay for it
Because the abstract does not give details of exactly how the research was done and the limitations of the study - a researcher/scientist always goes back to the primary source to get the full story.
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Old 01-19-2016, 11:10 AM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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Because the abstract does not give details of exactly how the research was done and the limitations of the study - a researcher/scientist always goes back to the primary source to get the full story.
And I am in no way standing in the way of a researcher or scientist who wants to view the entire study, in fact most of them already subscribe to one of the subscription services that provide access to the studies.
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Old 01-19-2016, 03:16 PM
 
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Ridiculous pandering. Drunk driving fatalities are usually the result of people who get totally plastered well beyond the .08 anyway..so what does this law do other than throw thousands more people into the criminal justice system who are basically of little threat to anyone, especially in comparison to cell phone usage? You're basically criminalizing a woman who weighs under 120lbs and has one glass of wine at dinner and drives home. That is good policy?
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Old 01-19-2016, 03:27 PM
 
Location: among the clustered spires
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I'd be a little worried that cops are busy hauling people in who're blowing a 0.06-7 and then aren't on the road for folks who're blowing 0.20 ...
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Old 01-19-2016, 04:43 PM
 
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Maybe there should be a graduated punishment based on level of intoxication.

0.02-0.05 = ticket, just like speeding
0.05 - 0.08 = ticket, not dismissable with DD, cannot continue driving (find a sober driver or car towed)
0.08 and up = arrest
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Old 01-19-2016, 05:43 PM
 
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Not that I agree with the study, but the link goes to the research articles page. If you aren't aware that scientific research manuscripts are often paywalled, that's on you.
No, it's "ON" the person who claims the study means something. Either he's read it and can therefore explain what the researchers did, or he hasn't, in which case anything he says about it is worthless.
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Old 01-19-2016, 08:45 PM
 
Location: San Francisco Bay Area
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Am I the only one who doesn't see a problem...
Nope. I think lowering the blood alcohol level to be a great idea. I know a man who lost his mother to an inebriated driver who drove up on the sidewalk and caused her death.

Does no one who has a drink out also have a designated driver? When I lived in Europe (Germany, specifically), there was always great consideration for the amount of alcohol people consumed and designated drivers if anyone was in any way impaired by alcohol.

Failing a designated driver, a person should either wait it out until the blood alcohol is low, or else call a taxi.
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