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Old 01-18-2016, 10:34 AM
 
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How about instead of focusing on numbers, we focus on impairment. If someone is suspected of drunk or high driving, give them an impairment test. If they can prove they are not impaired then the numbers don't really matter very much.

That method has the benefit of working not only for alcohol impairment, but all drugs, both legal and illegal. It also removes the variability of body weight and tolerance.
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Old 01-18-2016, 11:24 AM
 
Location: Evergreen, Colorado
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The federal government has no business being involved with highways.
Absurd

I can't think of a better use of my tax dollars than to expand the infrastructure which benefits commerce and the general public alike.

The alternative is public/private overpriced toll roads which actually limit mobility and BTW, are partially tax payer funded anyway. It's a lose/lose proposition for the middle class, just like the expensive sports stadiums
that everyone pays for, yet few get to enjoy.
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Old 01-18-2016, 11:30 AM
 
Location: Nashville, TN
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I honestly don't know what .08% feels like. When I feel like I'm impaired I don't know what my BAC is but I would assume it's above .08 and certainly above .05%. I've thought about getting a breathalyzer (surprised these aren't becoming mandatory the way things are now.) but I've never gone forward with the idea. I assume because of my fairly high alcohol tolerance that if I drink and then drive I'm probably above the legal limit even if I don't feel it. I don't drive if I'm drunk, I just don't know how high my BAC is when I actually get to that point.
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Old 01-18-2016, 11:52 AM
 
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Absurd

I can't think of a better use of my tax dollars than to expand the infrastructure which benefits commerce and the general public alike.

The alternative is public/private overpriced toll roads which actually limit mobility and BTW, are partially tax payer funded anyway. It's a lose/lose proposition for the middle class, just like the expensive sports stadiums
that everyone pays for, yet few get to enjoy.
Why can't the alternative be that states and counties build and maintain their own roads?
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Old 01-18-2016, 11:57 AM
 
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Why can't the alternative be that states and counties build and maintain their own roads?

the requisite need for interstate commerce?
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Old 01-18-2016, 11:58 AM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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Why can't the alternative be that states and counties build and maintain their own roads?
What unless they were required to build and maintain them what would happen if they opted out? If Nevada decided to abandon I-80 because they didn't want to maintain it it would sure be a pain to get from Sacramento to Salt Lake City
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Old 01-18-2016, 12:02 PM
 
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What unless they were required to build and maintain them what would happen if they opted out? If Nevada decided to abandon I-80 because they didn't want to maintain it it would sure be a pain to get from Sacramento to Salt Lake City
Maybe the feds could maintain it but close all the exits and entrances in Nevada.
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Old 01-18-2016, 01:00 PM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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Maybe the feds could maintain it but close all the exits and entrances in Nevada.
That's sort of what I'm thinking would happen...
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Old 01-18-2016, 01:43 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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Absurd

I can't think of a better use of my tax dollars than to expand the infrastructure which benefits commerce and the general public alike.

The alternative is public/private overpriced toll roads which actually limit mobility and BTW, are partially tax payer funded anyway. It's a lose/lose proposition for the middle class, just like the expensive sports stadiums
that everyone pays for, yet few get to enjoy.
No, the alternative is for the States to manage their own highways.

Abuses of the highway funds such as the Bridge to Nowhere and the Exit Ramp to Nowhere do not benefit the People.
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Old 01-18-2016, 01:44 PM
 
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the requisite need for interstate commerce?
And?

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What unless they were required to build and maintain them what would happen if they opted out? If Nevada decided to abandon I-80 because they didn't want to maintain it it would sure be a pain to get from Sacramento to Salt Lake City
I suppose they could "opt out" and choose not to maintain I-80 and severely hamper their own economy; however, you might as well be asking what would happen if the federal government decided that no state or county roads were allowed to connect to I-80.
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