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I know what my kid would have done, even if he was high. It wouldn't be laughing. He'd say Holy ( profanity ) That dude is in real trouble! And try to help in some way. Even if a call to 911 was the only way.
If I was the parent of one of these kids, I'd feel deeply ashamed.
I know what my kid would have done, even if he was high. It wouldn't be laughing. He'd say Holy ( profanity ) That dude is in real trouble! And try to help in some way. Even if a call to 911 was the only way.
If I was the parent of one of these kids, I'd feel deeply ashamed.
I would guess that, culturally, those -men- are nothing like your kid.
Chances are they come from families who teach 'look out for yourself' as rules 1 through 5.
That's the disturbing part, not the lackadaisical effort to save a man's life. (or a non existent effort)
Also, someone posted that those kids would have to live with the rest of their lives by laughing at this man's death. Something tells me that those kids won't feel any remorse until the day they die.
So instead of searching and trying, you just sit there and watch a man die. I hope you can sleep well at night. Make all the excuses you want...alligators, nothing to throw at him, he is too far...ugh disgusting.
I personally could not just stand by and watch someone die. I would do everything I could to help. If all my efforts failed then so be it, but I will not just stand and do nothing.
I think even if you cant do anything, the normal reaction for most people would be yours...to at least attempt to find something, anything to help the man. Not stand and film it.
My kids saw it on the news so I sat down with them to process it. We talked about what they would have done, etc. Their list was a lot like yours, sans swimming out to get him. They already know from water safety at camp that isn't safe. When we got to the end, and there was no way to rescue him, all they could do was wait for the police. Then we talked about how they would feel then.
I really do want to hear more from the boys...because I want to understand how they sunk so low. I know they aren't the only ones in history to laugh at a dying man...but its so hard for me to understand.
I think even if you cant do anything, the normal reaction for most people would be yours...to at least attempt to find something, anything to help the man. Not stand and film it.
My kids saw it on the news so I sat down with them to process it. We talked about what they would have done, etc. Their list was a lot like yours, sans swimming out to get him. They already know from water safety at camp that isn't safe. When we got to the end, and there was no way to rescue him, all they could do was wait for the police. Then we talked about how they would feel then.
I really do want to hear more from the boys...because I want to understand how they sunk so low. I know they aren't the only ones in history to laugh at a dying man...but its so hard for me to understand.
Sorry parenting is to blame. Parents have EVERYTHING to do with children's upbringing. You can learn behaviors from poor outside sources, sure, but in the end, you are home everyday, and a parents job is to enforce solid morals despite the challenges that come from dealing with the lesser folks, be it at school or at events, work, etc. Parents need to stop being so self-absorbed and spend time with their kids. Teach them to work hard, play hard, and empathize with those less fortunate than self.
These "teens" didn't sound like kids. They've been lost in the soul long ago, and I hate to say it, their futures are very grim if at this stage they can point and laugh at death.
Nothing could really be done to save this man -- it's Florida. I've lived here for 15 years. I know it. He COULD NOT be saved. However, these folks' actions were absolutely putrid. They need to hurry up and perform their next robbery so that they can be incarcerated and put away from society as soon as possible.
For those who keep saying that YOU DO NOT go in water in Florida, let me ask you this...
If your friend or family member were to end up in the situation this man did, you are telling me that under no circumstance would you do whatever you could to help them other than call 911? Because according to everyone that seems to be so knowledgable about Florida waters and the lack of things to throw to someone or not being able to find boats or not having enough people around....it sure would seem to me that you would just let whoever went in, stranger or familar, just drown.
That is utter BS! People jump in the ocean to save people all the time and there are just as many risks there as there would be in Florida. Sorry, but I stand by my decision to help any way I could. It's a human life.
Sorry parenting is to blame. Parents have EVERYTHING to do with children's upbringing. You can learn behaviors from poor outside sources, sure, but in the end, you are home everyday, and a parents job is to enforce solid morals despite the challenges that come from dealing with the lesser folks, be it at school or at events, work, etc. Parents need to stop being so self-absorbed and spend time with their kids. Teach them to work hard, play hard, and empathize with those less fortunate than self.
These "teens" didn't sound like kids. They've been lost in the soul long ago, and I hate to say it, their futures are very grim if at this stage they can point and laugh at death.
Nothing could really be done to save this man -- it's Florida. I've lived here for 15 years. I know it. He COULD NOT be saved. However, these folks' actions were absolutely putrid. They need to hurry up and perform their next robbery so that they can be incarcerated and put away from society as soon as possible.
Well I have a parent who is severely mentally ill and one who is likely a sociopath (although the list of diagnoses don't include that, they are able to hide their illegal and harmful behavior). So I guess I must be terrible...I just didn't realize it. Thanks for the heads up.
For those who keep saying that YOU DO NOT go in water in Florida, let me ask you this...
If your friend or family member were to end up in the situation this man did, you are telling me that under no circumstance would you do whatever you could to help them other than call 911? Because according to everyone that seems to be so knowledgable about Florida waters and the lack of things to throw to someone or not being able to find boats or not having enough people around....it sure would seem to me that you would just let whoever went in, stranger or familar, just drown.
That is utter BS! People jump in the ocean to save people all the time and there are just as many risks there as there would be in Florida. Sorry, but I stand by my decision to help any way I could. It's a human life.
Besides alligators and other terrible water animals. When attempting to do a water rescue, you really have to assess your own abilities. Your size and the size of the drowning. Drowning people are in panic and grab and pull people down. Being trained to be a water rescuer is really important, as is strength. But even great swimmers have been pulled under when attempting a rescue. I am not sure teenage boys would be capable to do a water rescue.
But I don't disagree...the normal empathetic human reaction would be to try to do something.
For those who keep saying that YOU DO NOT go in water in Florida, let me ask you this...
If your friend or family member were to end up in the situation this man did, you are telling me that under no circumstance would you do whatever you could to help them other than call 911? Because according to everyone that seems to be so knowledgable about Florida waters and the lack of things to throw to someone or not being able to find boats or not having enough people around....it sure would seem to me that you would just let whoever went in, stranger or familar, just drown.
That is utter BS! People jump in the ocean to save people all the time and there are just as many risks there as there would be in Florida. Sorry, but I stand by my decision to help any way I could. It's a human life.
Just thank the Lord that in these United States, you are free to foolishly risk your life in response to nearly any situation.
Just know that a person without advanced lifeguard training has an EXCELLENT chance of dying while attempting to save a panicking drowning person in deep water. There have been many cases where multiple rescuers have died trying to save someone drowning.
In addition, being brave and foolhardy does not keep away alligators or poison snakes, which again can attack and injure or kill you with NO notice, and are pretty much expected in ANY body of fresh water in Florida.
Last edited by rugrats2001; 07-23-2017 at 01:18 PM..
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