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Old 03-15-2018, 11:07 PM
 
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She was travelling with 2 or 3 kids- one of the seats should have had room...
sad all around - if she was too jaded to stand up for her dog, one of the other passengers (or ten of them) should have ... what is the world coming to when we can just sit there for TWO hours and hear something suffer (die)...
Yea, but if anyone stood up for what was right in this case, they would have possibly been arrested and who knows what else due to it. The FA snaps their fingers and you listen, anything else can have possible very significant consequences. Any issues to resolve must be done after the fact.

In this case, I would have taken the dog, kids, and got off the flight.
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Old 03-16-2018, 12:23 AM
 
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It is like some of you never flew, and/or have little knowledge of it.

Animals like dogs and cats have been allowed in the cabin for going back decades at least. The standard was as so long as the animal is in a carrier, and the carrier fits under the seat, it can be in the cabin. People fly with dogs and cats all of the time, all over the world, in the cabin just fine, most everyone have no idea the animals are even there.

This is not a new rule, fad, or anything.

The new fad is claiming your animal is a support animal, thus needs to be in the cabin whether in a carrier or not. You see this issue mostly with large dogs and prohibited in cabin animals like rodents.
This. "Support animals" are a new thing. When I had my cats...pets, not "support animals"...in carriers on a flight the airline was fully aware of them and I paid passage for them. That was 21 years ago. Only problem we had was one woman passing by our aisle and saw us stowing the cats under our seats. She flipped out. I thought she might be sitting near and was allergic to cats and I felt so bad. I asked a flight attendant if the woman was near, I can move. The woman who was flipping out said she wasn't allergic, she just didn't like cats. Well dadgum, what do you do then?
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Old 03-16-2018, 04:40 AM
 
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So is the deal that she had too much stuff shoved under the seat in front of her that the FA said she had to put the dog in they overhead bin?

What was the reason for the overhead bin?
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Old 03-16-2018, 04:49 AM
 
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This is sad.
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Old 03-16-2018, 05:17 AM
 
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So is the deal that she had too much stuff shoved under the seat in front of her that the FA said she had to put the dog in they overhead bin?

What was the reason for the overhead bin?
Flight attendant claims she didn't know there was a dog. United says they have strict policy animals cannot be placed in overhead bins. United has accepted full responsibility.

Luckily congress already introducing new legislation based on this to keep pets safe on planes in the future, many want United investigated (they have more pet deaths than all other airlines combined).
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Old 03-16-2018, 06:56 AM
 
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Dogs have their place. It’s in the cargo hold.
The airlines disagree.
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Old 03-16-2018, 07:29 AM
 
Location: City Data Land
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Nope, I would have said good for her! No one should put their own convienence over the life of a pet. I too would have gotten off the plane. Killing my dog would never be an option I would even consider in such a situation.
I find it astonishing how many people are judging this woman so harshly and saying what they would have done in this scenario. The fact is, you weren't in this woman's position, so you can't be positive about what you would have done on a crowded airplane with a baby, a boatload of luggage, a teenager, and a puppy in tow. And if you got off the flight, you would have been faced with losing every penny of the money you paid for all four tickets plus any possible bag fees for extra luggage, because United sure isn't going to refund you. The woman did everything she was supposed to. Not only that, faced with pressure from an FA who can throw passengers off the plane by force, she justifiably felt she had to give in despite her misgivings. The fault is United's.

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Old 03-16-2018, 08:09 AM
 
Location: Southern California
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This. "Support animals" are a new thing. When I had my cats...pets, not "support animals"...in carriers on a flight the airline was fully aware of them and I paid passage for them. That was 21 years ago. Only problem we had was one woman passing by our aisle and saw us stowing the cats under our seats. She flipped out. I thought she might be sitting near and was allergic to cats and I felt so bad. I asked a flight attendant if the woman was near, I can move. The woman who was flipping out said she wasn't allergic, she just didn't like cats. Well dadgum, what do you do then?
I'm going to be travelling soon with my cat on a flight and I am worried about this. I did research well in advance and chose an airline that gives me the best chance of having no problems. The airline has agreed to allow my pet onboard under the seat in front of me in her airline approved soft carrier. I have paid the fee they require. I have done all my due diligence and this trip must be made (moving).

When the day arrives I am going to be on edge all day wondering what people are thinking and I'm almost expecting some sort of confrontation. Especially if my cat starts meowing or something. I think I'll be have a few drinks on this flight to try and relax.
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Old 03-16-2018, 08:10 AM
 
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I find it astonishing how many people are judging this woman so harshly and saying what they would have done in this scenario. The fact is, you weren't in this woman's position, so you can't be positive about what you would have done on a crowded airplane with a baby, a boatload of luggage, a teenager, and a puppy in tow. And if you got off the flight, you would have been faced with losing every penny of the money you paid for all four tickets plus any possible bag fees for extra luggage, because United sure isn't going to refund you. The woman did everything she was supposed to. Not only that, faced with pressure from an FA who can throw passengers off the plane by force, she justifiably felt she had to give in despite her misgivings. The fault is United's.
Throw in a language barrier to further complicate and confuse matters.
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Old 03-16-2018, 09:06 AM
 
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Yea, but if anyone stood up for what was right in this case, they would have possibly been arrested and who knows what else due to it. The FA snaps their fingers and you listen, anything else can have possible very significant consequences. Any issues to resolve must be done after the fact.

In this case, I would have taken the dog, kids, and got off the flight.
I think this is exactly why people don't want to intervene. Just sit there and keep your mouth shut because if you don't, you will be escorted off the jet, miss your flight, and who knows what chain reaction could come from that. It is easy for the airline to apologize after you have missed your flight, missed your connecting flight, missed your hotel for that night and lost the money for it, missed that important meeting you were trying to get to, etc. It is best to do what they tell you and complain afterwards.
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