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Unless a half dozen witnesses step forward and state that they plainly heard the word dog, or that the dog was barking as it was put into the overhead, or that the FA picked it up and it was obvious the dog was wriggling around in the bag, I'm inclined to give the benefit of the doubt to the FA. The bag does not look like a pet carrier, and it's quite possible she may have been told but did not understand when the woman was saying it was a dog.
I'll concede it's possible because people do stupid things all the time, but it doesn't make much sense for any FA to risk their job by placing an animal in the overhead, especially if there are witnesses. Have any other witnesses come forth other than the woman with the original twitter post?
I would agree with you if the dog didnt bark for 2 hours lol
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Unless a half dozen witnesses step forward and state that they plainly heard the word dog, or that the dog was barking as it was put into the overhead, or that the FA picked it up and it was obvious the dog was wriggling around in the bag, I'm inclined to give the benefit of the doubt to the FA. The bag does not look like a pet carrier, and it's quite possible she may have been told but did not understand when the woman was saying it was a dog.
I'll concede it's possible because people do stupid things all the time, but it doesn't make much sense for any FA to risk their job by placing an animal in the overhead, especially if there are witnesses. Have any other witnesses come forth other than the woman with the original twitter post?
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Unless a half dozen witnesses step forward and state that they plainly heard the word dog, or that the dog was barking as it was put into the overhead, or that the FA picked it up and it was obvious the dog was wriggling around in the bag, I'm inclined to give the benefit of the doubt to the FA. The bag does not look like a pet carrier, and it's quite possible she may have been told but did not understand when the woman was saying it was a dog.
I'll concede it's possible because people do stupid things all the time, but it doesn't make much sense for any FA to risk their job by placing an animal in the overhead, especially if there are witnesses. Have any other witnesses come forth other than the woman with the original twitter post?
OK. Let's dissect this.
The dog owner had placed her dog in an approved pet carrier in her footspace on a plane.
You tell me now, how that dog ended up in the overhead bin.
Why do you need SIX witnesses who heard that there was a dog in the carrier, when 3 witnesses came forward and heard that exchange between the FA and the customer. Why do you need others who were much further away from the interaction to have clearly overheard it?
And then INNUMERABLE people who heard the dog in the overhead bin barking?
On an airplane, Flight attendants are pretty much like LE officers. Once you're in the air, they actually ARE the law.
Um no they are not.
The FA didn't "supposedly" tell her to do it, she ordered her to, and by most accounts she was the one who physically placed the dog in the overhead bin, despite protests by the family.
The FA is not GOD. The dog owner is an idiot. Would she had put her infant in the overhead storage? I'm guessing NO.
The dog owner likely would not know about the overhead bins, and how inappropriate they are for live animals; an FA would or should.
Common sense. The owner payed for an under the seat animal ticket.
I'm so curious why you are so consistently hard on the dog owner, and not the FA who caused all this?
It' is ultimately up to the dog owner to ensure the welfare of the dog.
You're acting as if the dog owner placed the dog in the overhead bin over the protests of the Flight Attendant.
Let's be honest here...both the FA and the dog owner were idiot's. They both lacked common sense.
I heard on talk radio news tonight that they both may be looking at animal cruelty charges. I can only hope the judge has the balls to actually enforce those charges.
The dog owner had placed her dog in an approved pet carrier in her footspace on a plane.
You tell me now, how that dog ended up in the overhead bin.
Why do you need SIX witnesses who heard that there was a dog in the carrier, when 3 witnesses came forward and heard that exchange between the FA and the customer. Why do you need others who were much further away from the interaction to have clearly overheard it?
And then INNUMERABLE people who heard the dog in the overhead bin barking?
Not to mention that the carrier is clearly almost entirely mesh on at least one side (The unzipped side in the photo) and lifting a soft sided carrier with a dog of that weight inside is considerably more awkward (as dogs tend to panic and shift their weight around while the carrier is elevated) than lifting luggage.
There is nothing believable about the claim that the flight attendant wasn't fully aware that the bag contained a live animal.
I don't believe it is likely that this flight attendant is some heartless
monster..I do believe either an appropriate protocol for the handling of such situations wasn't in place or this person was either lacking in training or electively went against company policy (the latter of which I highly doubt).
IMHO this is most likely a case of poorly trained employee makes tragic mistake.
French Bulldogs look exactly the same now as they did in the 1800's when they first became popular. There have been mummified remains of a dog called the Chincha bulldog found in ancient Peruvian tombs that look just like it. You make it sound like they are some sort of modern designer dog, they're not.
No they don't. They have become more brachycephalic over time, as have other dogs like boxers, and cat breeds like Persians. There are breeders who are purposefully pushing the envelope as far as breeding for a more extreme look, and the animals are the ones who end up suffering. Personally, I think brachycephalic animals are ugly, and to breed towards rhat look is unethical.
Then maybe it shouldn't be, at least for airplane travel. Hard-sided carriers protect better since nothing can smash into the carrier and collapse the sides, for example.
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I'm going to be travelling soon with my cat on a flight and I am worried about this. I did research well in advance and chose an airline that gives me the best chance of having no problems. The airline has agreed to allow my pet onboard under the seat in front of me in her airline approved soft carrier. I have paid the fee they require. I have done all my due diligence and this trip must be made (moving).
When the day arrives I am going to be on edge all day wondering what people are thinking and I'm almost expecting some sort of confrontation. Especially if my cat starts meowing or something. I think I'll be have a few drinks on this flight to try and relax.
It was stressful. I'm the last person who wants to cause a scene or cause stress for another person. I would have had a cocktail (or two) but I was pregnant. LOL. Worst flight of my life. I was embarrassed, wanted to hide after that woman had a fit. Wishing you luck on your flight.
I'm so curious why you are so consistently hard on the dog owner, and not the FA who caused all this?
Because the owner was the one who was responsible for the dog, not the FA. The owner made the choice to put her dog in an overhead bin, which is what led to the dog's death. She could have said no, she could have talked to another FA, the pilot, or gotten off the plan and talked to another representative of the airline. She chose not to any of this, and instead went with the easiest option, killing her dog.
And even though she went with the easiest option, sticking her dog in the overhead bin, she never once checked on the dog during the 3 hour and 25 minute flight. Not once while the dog was barking did she care about its well being. Instead she just sat there listening to her dog die. What kind of a monster does that?
That doesn't mean that everyone can instantly recognize a black duffle bag as a pet carrier, especially when it is partially underneath a seat and between someone's legs.
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