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Old 04-29-2019, 12:35 PM
 
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He's already taking up twice as much fuel by being twice as heavy. You think he should have two seats to my one? Explain.
Actually, he isn't. The majority of the fuel is spent hauling the aircraft (and, ironically, more fuel) around. Passenger weight is a fairly small percentage of the entire aircraft's weight. Think of t this way: Flying an empty plane would still consume fuel.

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<lots of solid math>

That's about a quarter of one-percent. The obvious problem is that the expense required would probably eat that up - and remember, that final figure includes three distinct generous estimates that very likely overstate it.

This.
Won't.
Happen.
That's how I see it, as well. However... There is a discernible difference in take-off weight between a planeful of ballet dancers and a planeful of sumo wrestlers, and while I don't see an individual surcharge/discount being applicable, I could easily see the airlines pushing the pilots to take that into account for their reserve fuel calculations. Stories of pilots feeling pushed to take on as little as fuel as possible aren't rare.
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Old 04-29-2019, 02:18 PM
 
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Lol, I guess you do not realize there can be a large weight difference between two perfectly, non-fat and fit people?

I am 6'4", my wife is 5", we do not weigh the same, not even close, neither one of us is even close to being overweight (as in being fat).
If my wife was 5" tall I would probably just sneak her onto the plane in my pocket or something instead of buying her a ticket.
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Old 04-29-2019, 02:35 PM
 
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They do this for helicopter flights now - at least in Maui. It's used for seating position to be sure the helicopter is balanced. Depending on the operator, you also get charged like an extra $25 or something if you're over 250 pounds, etc. - that's for an hour ride.
They make it even easier on the mule rides to the bottom of the Grand Canyon. If you’re over 200 pounds, you don’t go. At any price. It’s called cruelty to animals.

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Old 04-29-2019, 02:47 PM
 
Location: Avignon, France
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Funny that people think that overweight people are somehow “getting over” on them because they pay the same price for an airline ticket than thinner folks do. One of the silliest notions I’ve ever heard!
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Old 05-04-2019, 02:42 PM
 
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Here we go with this "shaming" nonsense again.
Look -- if you're fat, you're FAT. Let's stop acting like being overweight is not a problem. It is. If it incurs additional fees on something like a passenger airplane, then so be it. It's a very minimal consequence when compared to the list of issues one will face with being unhealthy.
Hey it's the company that said it...I just quoted them....it is what it is.
If the passenger fits in one seat, how is their weight any concern of yours anyways?
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Old 05-04-2019, 04:09 PM
 
Location: Upstate NY 🇺🇸
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Funny that people think that overweight people are somehow “getting over” on them because they pay the same price for an airline ticket than thinner folks do. One of the silliest notions I’ve ever heard!

There's no notion sillier than yours--which is, apparently, that a passenger spilling out of the ONE seat he paid for, and into or onto the seat of someone else, who fits in his seat, should only be paying for one seat.

Yup. That is silly.

P.S. Those obese passengers ARE, in fact, "getting over" on them--in every sense of the word.
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Old 05-06-2019, 08:48 AM
 
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There's no notion sillier than yours--which is, apparently, that a passenger spilling out of the ONE seat he paid for, and into or onto the seat of someone else, who fits in his seat, should only be paying for one seat.

Yup. That is silly.

P.S. Those obese passengers ARE, in fact, "getting over" on them--in every sense of the word.
Then they better get their $$$$ together (the airlines) because America is apparently getting bigger, and bigger and bigger...even to the point where it's being called an epidemic of obesity.
The airlines need to quit being so greedy, and start making accommodations for heavier people....surely they realize that....that's probably why they want to base seat charges on weight.
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Old 05-06-2019, 09:40 AM
 
Location: Southern California
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How about: You pay X price to ride on the plane. Or you can be weighed and if you are found to be below a threshold you get a discount. Is it fat shaming when a clothing manufacturer charges for larger sizes?
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Old 05-06-2019, 09:55 AM
 
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They make it even easier on the mule rides to the bottom of the Grand Canyon. If you’re over 200 pounds, you don’t go. At any price. It’s called cruelty to animals.
I hiked it myself with my pack. No need for a mule ride like those p——-sies.
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Old 05-06-2019, 09:56 AM
 
Location: State of Transition
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Actually, he isn't. The majority of the fuel is spent hauling the aircraft (and, ironically, more fuel) around. Passenger weight is a fairly small percentage of the entire aircraft's weight. Think of t this way: Flying an empty plane would still consume fuel.
Exactly. What I'm wondering, is why airlines are nickeling and dime-ing passengers to this extent, as if they can no longer afford to carry passengers?! Parts of the First World are getting more 3rd-World by the day, it seems. Seriously, this is bizarre. But I guess it's a discount-airline start-up, not an established carrier. Maybe this is the wave of the future for that class of airline?
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