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I really don't understand this. A felony is an egregious act, that comes with very serious consequences.
Package theft of items that sometimes are virtually worthless does NOT rise to the level of a felony. We are blurring the lines between petty crimes, and serious ones that need to be dealt with seriously.
Really? I order a book from Amazon for 15 bucks, and if someone takes it it's a FELONY punishable by up to 10 years in prison and 10,000 fine?
How about the theft of an $8,000 package of chemotherapy pills? Happened to a neighbor.
With the emptying of jails by criminalizing pot, we should have more room for these worthless thieves.
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Originally Posted by NSHL10
How about the theft of an $8,000 package of chemotherapy pills? Happened to a neighbor.
With the emptying of jails by criminalizing pot, we should have more room for these worthless thieves.
That's a different thing, and yes, that rises to a level of felony.
What makes theft a felony or a misdemeanor depends on the value of the item. And also, the aggression with which it was taken. A wallet stolen at knifepoint is a different crime from a wallet quietly stolen from a shopping cart.
Do you mean decriminalizing pot? And are those who are in prison for marijuana related crimes automatically pardoned when pot becomes legal?
I don't think so, but I don't know for sure.
BTW, my dad was on chemo drugs about that expensive, and he'd sit and wait for them to arrive by mail. Somehow, he was unable to get them delivered requiring a signature, they were just left on the porch and he'd have to watch for them. Even when he offered to pay the cost of the increased postage. Nuts.
But the thing is, I don't think we can just keep making more and more crimes felonies, and upcharging suspects way beyond the spirit of the laws. I don't want people in prison, which ruins their chances of being self-supporting when they get out, for stealing a book off my porch.
There needs to be a better way to deliver very expensive items than leaving them sitting on someone's porch. It's just as likely they could be lost through a delivery error - items of felony level value deserve more care than that.
I really don't understand this. A felony is an egregious act, that comes with very serious consequences.
Package theft of items that sometimes are virtually worthless does NOT rise to the level of a felony. We are blurring the lines between petty crimes, and serious ones that need to be dealt with seriously.
Really? I order a book from Amazon for 15 bucks, and if someone takes it it's a FELONY punishable by up to 10 years in prison and 10,000 fine?
I really don't understand this. A felony is an egregious act, that comes with very serious consequences.
Package theft of items that sometimes are virtually worthless does NOT rise to the level of a felony. We are blurring the lines between petty crimes, and serious ones that need to be dealt with seriously.
Really? I order a book from Amazon for 15 bucks, and if someone takes it it's a FELONY punishable by up to 10 years in prison and 10,000 fine?
Why are you so concerned with what happens to these thieves, if you aren't one of them?
I say it's right on track. These thieves are scum-sucking dogs, and deserve plenty of prison time. At least once that we know about, they stole a kids $40,000 chemo meds prescription. Can you even try to imagine what a parent goes through to cover that sort of price to keep their kid alive, and insurance won't pay any of it?
Package theft of items that sometimes are virtually worthless does NOT rise to the level of a felony. We are blurring the lines between petty crimes, and serious ones that need to be dealt with seriously.
If someone steals a package thats been sent via the U.S.P.S., it's a federal felony no matter what state you're in, and it's been that way for a long time.
I'm not really into punishments that don't really fit crimes.
Like I don't get putting someone who uses drugs in jail. I mean, how does that even make sense?
Mandatory rehab? Fines? That makes more sense. Someone SELLING drugs...yeah, big time jail.
Because it actually also solves the problem.
However, I do think that our overall punishment scheme is WAY too lenient towards offenders. If the only step up for package thieves is to move to the next bracket (to felony), then I guess that's fine. If there is something between what they get now (which is basically nothing/slap on the wrist/we aren't even gonna bother prosecuting this bc it's low level), that would be fine, too.
You know, there really need to start being real consequences in this world for being a low life scum sucker.
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