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Okay, for the sake of argument thus far these theories have been floated -- pardon the pun (although, Sockeye66, I do believe the Occam's Razor principle):
1. Accident
2. Color blindness preventing him from seeing the open window
3. Sadistic tendencies
4. Dementia with hallucinations
5. Mental impairment due to alcohol, drugs or lack of sleep
6. Collusion among family members
Anyone care to add any others?
PS: I can think of one other possibility that is dependent upon other factors but I think I'll keep it to myself for now.
Last edited by StayingAfterSunday; 12-19-2019 at 05:00 PM..
Apparently I'm the only one who can't see any videos in that link.
The railing is supposedly 18 inches from the window frame. I'm 5'6". I got a tape measure and stood 18 inches from the wall, then leaned forward. At an angle of about 40 degrees, my forehead touched the wall.
In the one video I can see, the grandpa looks like he's leaning at least that far forward, maybe farther. And he wasn't surprised, didn't even notice, that he didn't contact glass? Not to mention the fresh air on his face? I imagine a jury would have "fun" with that.
It's a Facebook video. Can you watch it on Facebook?
What would possibly be his motive to deliberately kill his granddaughter? (to those questioning if this was intentional)
I'm pulling here from the comments on the FB site. Take them for what they're worth, which may not be much.
Some people there speculated that since he is NOT the child's biological grandfather, there may have been some relationship-based reasons for him to resent her. For instance, the grandmother (who is the biological grandma) was giving her too much attention and neglecting him, so he wanted to do away with the baby. Frankly, I think that's far-fetched, but grandpa did lean way out of the window and look down for quite a while. If you were inclined toward this theory, you could say that he was mentally measuring the distance and considering that spot as a potential location for his crime. Also, his reported first words could be considered suspicious. Instead of screaming something like "Oh my God! Chloe! Chloe! Aaagh!" and rushing down to look for her body, he supposedly said "I thought there was glass!" as though he knew what was going to happen and was immediately trying to present himself as innocent.
Also far-fetched is the idea that the whole thing was deliberately planned so that the family would get a big cash payout from the cruise line. The facts as reported above could also be bent to support this theory (seeking out an open window, looking out and around, immediately calling attention to the lack of glass as though the fault lay with the ship and not with him).
I'm pulling here from the comments on the FB site. Take them for what they're worth, which may not be much.
Some people there speculated that since he is NOT the child's biological grandfather, there may have been some relationship-based reasons for him to resent her. For instance, the grandmother (who is the biological grandma) was giving her too much attention and neglecting him, so he wanted to do away with the baby. Frankly, I think that's far-fetched, but grandpa did lean way out of the window and look down for quite a while. If you were inclined toward this theory, you could say that he was mentally measuring the distance and considering that spot as a potential location for his crime. Also, his reported first words could be considered suspicious. Instead of screaming something like "Oh my God! Chloe! Chloe! Aaagh!" and rushing down to look for her body, he supposedly said "I thought there was glass!" as though he knew what was going to happen and was immediately trying to present himself as innocent.
Also far-fetched is the idea that the whole thing was deliberately planned so that the family would get a big cash payout from the cruise line. The facts as reported above could also be bent to support this theory (seeking out an open window, looking out and around, immediately calling attention to the lack of glass as though the fault lay with the ship and not with him).
So were there any witnesses at all, either inside who saw something, or outside on the dock or elsewhere? I would think someone would have noticed her being dangled, or at least falling. Was he quiet until she hit the dock, then cried out? Nothing has been said what was found in the investigation leading up to the charges being filed. I wonder what the police/prosecution have that they will bring out in trial?
I'm pulling here from the comments on the FB site. Take them for what they're worth, which may not be much.
Some people there speculated that since he is NOT the child's biological grandfather, there may have been some relationship-based reasons for him to resent her. For instance, the grandmother (who is the biological grandma) was giving her too much attention and neglecting him, so he wanted to do away with the baby. Frankly, I think that's far-fetched, but grandpa did lean way out of the window and look down for quite a while. If you were inclined toward this theory, you could say that he was mentally measuring the distance and considering that spot as a potential location for his crime. Also, his reported first words could be considered suspicious. Instead of screaming something like "Oh my God! Chloe! Chloe! Aaagh!" and rushing down to look for her body, he supposedly said "I thought there was glass!" as though he knew what was going to happen and was immediately trying to present himself as innocent.
Also far-fetched is the idea that the whole thing was deliberately planned so that the family would get a big cash payout from the cruise line. The facts as reported above could also be bent to support this theory (seeking out an open window, looking out and around, immediately calling attention to the lack of glass as though the fault lay with the ship and not with him).
No more far fetched then the idea of grandpa accidentally dropped the baby out of the window. The whole story is stranger then fiction.
So were there any witnesses at all, either inside who saw something, or outside on the dock or elsewhere? I would think someone would have noticed her being dangled, or at least falling. Was he quiet until she hit the dock, then cried out? Nothing has been said what was found in the investigation leading up to the charges being filed. I wonder what the police/prosecution have that they will bring out in trial?
There is video evidence, which is better then witnesses. But there are probably many witnesses too. If this ever goes to trial I expect there will be witnesses.
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