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Old 03-20-2020, 08:06 PM
 
Location: Oregon Coast
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Originally Posted by TMSRetired View Post
WHO has a myth buster page to try to dispel rumors.
South Africa had 1 case on 3/5. They have 150 on 3/20.
Most of the South American countries have confirmed cases in the hundreds and the virus just entered there recently.


https://www.who.int/emergencies/dise...c/myth-busters
COVID-19 virus can be transmitted in areas with hot and humid climates

From the evidence so far, the COVID-19 virus can be transmitted in ALL AREAS, including areas with hot and humid weather.
Read and understand it. Yes it can be transmitted anywhere. We know that. But the virus is not spreading significantly in warm weather. Which is exactly what would be expected of any virus.

 
Old 03-20-2020, 08:08 PM
 
Location: colorado springs, CO
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No, they don't. And you know this. I quoted the exact line from your article where they say who gets the flu shot. You conveniently decided to delete that section from your reply to me since it doesn't go along with your conspiracy theory.
It is not a conspiracy theory & that's not fair. I have been here since 2014. Have you ever seen me yammer on & on about 9/11 or flat-earth or chemtrails, etc?

Ever? No, because I never have. I am not a conspiracy theorist. Yeah, I argue about vaccines but have you ever seen me START a thread about them? This is a valid concern. I have more science that supports me than anyone does to counter me & I am afraid for my friends & family who got the flu shot.

I am afraid for the children who got TWO this year, if they truly are super-spreaders & COVID turns out to be a relevant coronavirus; this will be a problem here. I am talking about other things too here as well but if I am countered; I will respond.

Glad to see the replies though. That means at least ya'll saw it.
 
Old 03-20-2020, 08:10 PM
 
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I wonder why in my area there are no slots available from the Whole Foods side or the Amazon side (on Prime now).

I used to regularly get delivery from them. Nice of that person to grab you some eggs! You can 'adjust' your whole foods delivery by cancelling and re-doing it.
Some stores do let you add things. For Walmart, up to almost day of delivery if you add new things to your cart then click “checkout” it’ll ask “Do you want to add this to your existing order? Others may do that too.
 
Old 03-20-2020, 08:15 PM
 
Location: colorado springs, CO
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40% of those hospitalized are under 54 years old. They were wrong when we were told it affects only older folks badly.
In Colorado the age group most impacted is 40-49. And we have more women than men infected as well.
 
Old 03-20-2020, 08:16 PM
 
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No, I have nothing to do with your 'collectively'. Come to OKC and be surprised on how races/nationalities you never expected to manage without 'we' live together. I was floored and now I am used to it.
I never said everyone l or even a majority. It doesn’t need to be a majority. I know they are exceptions and not the tile but the dog whistles have an effect on those people, and others suffer for it.

And yes, the collective “we” as in America, took Japanese Americans from their homes and put them into camps in this country during WWII, which is the line you seemed to object to. It was national policy, so the collective “we”, as in America, is absolutely appropriate.

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Old 03-20-2020, 08:18 PM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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Wrong. I don't know if it does & you don't know if it doesn't. But we DO know it increases our risk of coronavirus.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/31607599

Now what would you rather people do if they are on the fence about getting their flu shot? Are you one of those "oh the flu is so much worse" people or would you rather err on the side of caution until they know specifically about COVID?

Cause last time I checked; COVID is a coronavirus. Last I checked; China had a mass-immunization campaign in December & last I checked; Italy started mandatory immunizations in 2016. Children are suspected 'superspreaders' for COVID. Children in the US, this year; were given not one but TWO flu shots this season.

If COVID 'counts' as a coronavirus the flu shot can make worse; the US just created superspreaders on steroids. I kinda do not think anybody should be getting a flu shot right now, given the available research.
You keep posting that link and ignoring the fact that there is data to contradict it.

https://academic.oup.com/cid/article/57/6/789/329048

"In univariate analyses, no association was found between influenza vaccination and single virus detection of RSV, adenovirus, human metapneumovirus, human rhinovirus, or coronavirus."

I assure you that if people vaccinated against influenza were getting COVID-19 at higher rates we would know it by now and there would not be the continued recommendation to vaccinate against flu. Do you have any sources to support that flu vaccine increases the risk of getting COVID-19? That is really only your highly biased opinion based on your belief that all vaccines are highly unsafe.

The only children who get two doses of flu vaccine are those who have never had a previous dose.

Please provide a source for the statement that, "Children are suspected 'superspreaders' for COVID."

This article states that the role of children in spreading COVID-19 is not defined.

All superspreaders of the original SARS were symptomatic. That would argue against an asymptomatic child being a superspreader.

https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/6/20-0495_article
 
Old 03-20-2020, 08:18 PM
 
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Some stores do let you add things. For Walmart, up to almost day of delivery if you add new things to your cart then click “checkout” it’ll ask “Do you want to add this to your existing order? Others may do that too.
Not Amazon Prime Now/ Amazon or whole foods side. You can cancel and re-do, which would not be smart now if one has a delivery slot! For my area, they are booked. IDK if some open everyday and get taken before I check or what, but for me it keeps saying 'No delivery times available'.
 
Old 03-20-2020, 08:19 PM
 
Location: NMB, SC
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Read and understand it. Yes it can be transmitted anywhere. We know that. But the virus is not spreading significantly in warm weather. Which is exactly what would be expected of any virus.
I think it has more to do with them just getting it 15 days ago.
We have had it since January.

South Africa is up to 202 and the other African countries are just reporting their first cases today.
 
Old 03-20-2020, 08:20 PM
 
Location: Juneau, AK + Puna, HI
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As you have been told many times, this study was done in 2017-18 and does not include the present COVID-19 virus. Quit spreading disinformation.
It's highly speculative to suggest that flu vaccines could cause individuals to be more vulnerable to this particular coronavirus but not quite disinformation.

I don't see why people seem so threatened by it. Virus interference isn't exactly a new concept and certainly doesn't belong in "conspiracy theory" territory.

Perhaps I'm biased though. Did I get a flu shot? No. Will I be getting one soon? No.
 
Old 03-20-2020, 08:21 PM
 
Location: NMB, SC
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One reason that more young are starting to show up in hospitals might be because the older ones took "isolation" seriously while the young ones played YOLO, ignored social distancing and actually went out of their way to try to catch it (lick toilet bowel challenge).
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