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Old 07-02-2013, 04:09 PM
 
Location: Michigan
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Did someone say they can't afford to eat healthy? I can't afford fast food or processed food from the grocery store. That stuff is far far more expensive than meals cooked from scratch.

Which is cheaper?

A. Farmers sell the crops to Gigantic Food Conglomerate for a profit. Gigantic Food Conglomerate processes the crops and creates a product, which is then marked up and sold to the grocery store. Grocery store marks up the product again and sells it to the consumer.
B. Farmers sell the crops to the grocery store for a profit. Grocery store marks up the product and sells it to the consumer.
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Old 07-02-2013, 04:19 PM
 
Location: Michigan
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So if I eat three pounds of cheese, avocados, bananas, beans, cows milk, every day, I will lose more weight over time than if I ate three ounces of Cheetos every day?
You would lose more weight on the Cheetos diet. At least until your metabolism slowed to a crawl, you developed scurvy, Keshan disease, osteoporosis, tetany, blindness, compromised immune function, you collapse and are rushed to a hospital where they put you on an IV. After which you are released, binge eat for a few weeks and gain it all back plus another 10 lbs.
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Old 07-02-2013, 04:35 PM
 
Location: Las Flores, Orange County, CA
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There is literally only one thing you need to do, as far as your diet goes, in order to lose weight.

Eat whole foods and avoid highly processed/refined foods.
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You would lose more weight on the Cheetos diet.
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Old 07-02-2013, 04:37 PM
 
Location: Las Flores, Orange County, CA
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Did someone say they can't afford to eat healthy?
I don't think I've read that. They may have written it takes more time and/or more money, but I don't think anyone has actually written they could not afford it.
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Old 07-02-2013, 04:38 PM
 
Location: Michigan
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So if I eat three pounds of cheese, avocados, bananas, beans, cows milk, every day, I will lose more weight over time than if I ate three ounces of Cheetos every day?
By the way, let's say you do eat three pounds of those foods.

6 ounces cheddar= 684 calories
2 avocados (10 ounces)= 454 calories
4 bananas (1 lb)= 420 calories
1 pint whole milk (1 lb)= 300 calories
1 can of black beans (1 lb)= 228 calories

Oops, that's 4 lbs. It comes out to 2086 calories.

Now let's see what 4 lbs of Cheetos looks like...

9,600 calories.

In the real world, people have hunger cravings and nutritional needs and can't just eat 3 ounces of Cheetos per day.

As far as I know, this person's diet takes place in the real world and not in some asinine hypothetical construct of Charles' imagination in which people have limitless will power and bodies that can function on 3 ounces of Cheetos per day.
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Old 07-02-2013, 04:44 PM
 
Location: Las Flores, Orange County, CA
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Now let's see what 4 lbs of Cheetos looks like...

9,600 calories.
100% correct..but completely irrelevant.

Nobody wrote anything about four pounds of Cheetos.

You wrote "literally only one thing" without regard to quantity. I wrote an example of how a small quantity of something unhealthy would result in more weight loss over time than a large quantity of only healthy things.

Didn't you catch that?
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Old 07-02-2013, 04:45 PM
 
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I don't think I've read that. They may have written it takes more time and/or more money, but I don't think anyone has actually written they could not afford it.
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I cannot afford to eat the right foods
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Old 07-02-2013, 04:50 PM
 
Location: Michigan
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100% correct..but completely irrelevant.

Nobody wrote anything about four pounds of Cheetos.

You wrote "literally only one thing" without regard to quantity. I wrote an example of how a small quantity of something unhealthy would result in more weight loss over time than a large quantity of only healthy things.

Didn't you catch that?
I said "There is literally only one thing you need to do, as far as your diet goes, in order to lose weight."

Now let's ignore the fact that your hypothetical diet of 3 ounces of Cheetos per day is both ridiculous and completely unfeasible.

How is your 3 ounces of Cheetos per day diet relevant to my statement?

"All you have to do is" and "the only possible way to do it is" are not the same thing.

Didn't you catch that?
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Old 07-02-2013, 07:50 PM
 
Location: Las Flores, Orange County, CA
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I said "There is literally only one thing you need to do, as far as your diet goes, in order to lose weight."

Now let's ignore the fact that your hypothetical diet of 3 ounces of Cheetos per day is both ridiculous and completely unfeasible.

How is your 3 ounces of Cheetos per day diet relevant to my statement?

"All you have to do is" and "the only possible way to do it is" are not the same thing.

Didn't you catch that?
"There is literally only one thing you need to do, as far as your diet goes, in order to lose weight. Eat whole foods and avoid highly processed/refined foods." is not necessarily true.
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Old 07-28-2013, 11:16 AM
 
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My best tool is just to stop eating certain foods that trigger my compulsion to overeat. Most of them were junk food anyway. When someone brings goodies to work, I just remind myself there is no nutritional value in them and my body needs nutrition to be healthy.
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