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Old 07-21-2020, 10:53 AM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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Doctors and scientists are now saying they believe Coronavirus will always be with us................
Actually, doctors and scientists are saying we are about 4 months away from having a vaccine.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/coronav...s-encouraging/
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Old 07-21-2020, 11:17 AM
 
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Probably because the immune response is strain-specific. Otherwise, we wouldn't need annual flu shots.


Two-thirds of companies see work-from-home as a permanent fixture of work environment

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Trump's infrastructure stimulus plan makes absolutely no sense when there's less travel. Poor dude is suffering from owning hotels.
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Old 07-21-2020, 11:54 AM
 
Location: ATX-HOU
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Actually, doctors and scientists are saying we are about 4 months away from having a vaccine.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/coronav...s-encouraging/

So like the flu?
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Old 07-21-2020, 12:23 PM
 
Location: Boston
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I keep reading about people who assert they will refuse any vaccination. Of course, there is a difference between what people say now and what they actually do a year or two from now.
that's easy enough to deal with. workplaces can require you be vaccinated, schools can too or your child can't be enrolled ... that's a small problem....workplace rules and public safety trump individual rights. Businesses already can determine smokers will not be hired.
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Old 07-21-2020, 12:33 PM
 
Location: Riverside Ca
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Probably because the immune response is strain-specific. Otherwise, we wouldn't need annual flu shots.


Two-thirds of companies see work-from-home as a permanent fixture of work environment

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Trump's infrastructure stimulus plan makes absolutely no sense when there's less travel. Poor dude is suffering from owning hotels.
There will always be travel. More people staying at home means more service oriented economy. Whatever you used to do at work....you’re now doing it at home. These buildings and structures will ALL require more and frequent maintenance also. The service industry is going to boom because everyone will want everything delivered or need things serviced.
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Old 07-21-2020, 01:13 PM
 
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A mask, goggles, gloves, and face shield mandate would be for starters. In public and at home. Anyone who doesn't comply faces jail time like many local governments are doing already. If that doesn't work then possibly prison or the death penalty. Some experts are even recommending wearing masks and additional protective measures while engaging in intimate activities. If we take all of these necessary precautions and follow all orders by the authorities we might have this thing under control in 2 or 3 years. Safety first.
!!!??? Are you serious?
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Old 07-21-2020, 01:46 PM
 
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Yes, and I explained how the previous poster was using the numbers incorrectly.

The news article you link is from May, rather outdated for an emergent health issue. The mortality rate is still sitting at about 4% of diagnosed cases.
Has CDC revised their estimates?


And you didn't accuse the previous poster of using numbers incorrectly, you accused them of just making things up. ("It was a made up number with no basis in fact.")
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Old 07-21-2020, 02:32 PM
 
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I agree, but it complicates things if booster shots are needed. This isn't just a USA problem, it's a global problem. Add this to the mix of increasing the supply chain to accommodate Covid vaccines and boosters? It could be a challenge. Us retired people just have to stay home and let those that are essential have the vaccines first. How long will it take to vaccinate the world? Several months? I'm prepared to stay home for over a year. It's an awful thought.
It will be less a problem for seniors once we have better treatments, and those could be in the form of monoclonal AB's. IMO we will see these soon, and sooner than vaccines. They should be able to a better job of nipping covid cases in the bud, with fewer progressing to more serious disease. Of course a bit of pie in the sky right now, but still a very likely future scenario.
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Old 07-21-2020, 03:00 PM
 
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Actually, doctors and scientists are saying we are about 4 months away from having a vaccine.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/coronav...s-encouraging/
Let me laugh......ha ha ha. Covid vaccine drugs may take years to study and see if there are long term effects and they may not work on everyone. So far such drugs don't have a great record. We need solid science (like what are the long term side effect, does it work on all the strains, what is the survivability numbers, does it mask the symptoms or actually lowers the viral load, etc.)

What is needed is drugs that can help current Covid patients. As usual the US government is blowing billions financing the riskiest and most unlikely vaccine ideas that should take years in development and testing rather than treatments in the near term.

Good Luck!
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Old 07-21-2020, 03:29 PM
 
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Let me laugh......ha ha ha. Covid vaccine drugs may take years to study and see if there are long term effects and they may not work on everyone. So far such drugs don't have a great record. We need solid science (like what are the long term side effect, does it work on all the strains, what is the survivability numbers, does it mask the symptoms or actually lowers the viral load, etc.)

What is needed is drugs that can help current Covid patients. As usual the US government is blowing billions financing the riskiest and most unlikely vaccine ideas that should take years in development and testing rather than treatments in the near term.

Good Luck!

The entire world is pursuing vaccines. Over 100 separate projects world-wide. And you may prefer to wait a few years to study effects but the world will not and vaccines will be approved within a few months from now. Treatments are also being concurrently developed. It's not a case of either-or.
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