7 ways men live without working in America (student loan, small business, percentage)
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I fall into this group, and in fact always have, as my last 'real job' was as a teenager delivering newspapers/officiating soccer games (and it may be a bit of stretch to refer to either of those as a 'real job'). I play poker; my routine is to play every other night. Spend a good portion of the rest of my time reading books. It's a far better life than that offered by most jobs.
I wondered how so many people in the "great resignation" are able to pay the rent and eat. I know panhandlers next to the freeway ramps can make $200/day, but haven't seen an increase in those lately.
This has gotten to be a big problem around here. They stand in the middle of traffic and some shout at people who do not give them money. Some are dropped off by van by someone organizing this activity. At the same time, signs are posted everywhere looking for help. CT has a minimum of $13 an hour and there are many openings where no skills or experience are required. Social agencies should be working with employers and mental health agencies to find a way to help move panhandlers to full-time employment and housing (many hold signs stating they are homeless).
This was not common place 2 years ago but now it is pervasive. It also is no longer just contained in the cities. With so many opportunities and a strong social service network, the problem should be getting better not worse.
Almost one-third of all working-age men in America aren’t doing diddly-squat. They don’t have a job, and they aren’t looking for one either. One-third of all working-age men. That’s almost 30 million people!
How do they live? What are they doing for money?
-Unemployment insurance
-Early retirement, pensions, disability and lawsuits
-Savings, trading stocks, and bitcoin
-Working for cash, aka the under-the-table economy
-Living off family members
-Illegal work
-Living off the land
It seems like working legally to provide for yourself in America is really just one option these days.
How does "working for cash"=not working?
How does living on pensions or retirement saving that worked for=not working?
What is wrong with Early Retirement and pensions? I worked hard for years, saved instead of buying fancy cars, gadgets, etc. So when I was caught in a RIF when some of the folks were scrambling to find new jobs I could take the severance and early retirement and retire. I worked part time for a few years mainly to get out of the house and have something to do but when COVID hit I decided to quit instead of taking chances. I volunteer, have hobbies and am active in local gov't
The same with disabilities I know several people who have disabilities because of the jobs they had and are on long term disability. It wasn't their fault that they had to use strong chemicals or work in poorly ventilated spaces. And most of the folks I know on disability would rather be able to hold a job than suffer the problems they have had.
Savings, stock trading, etc - What is the difference between someone trading stocks and buying and selling used cars, or used books? Or living off savings - If the savings were acquired legally why shouldn't they be allowed to live off them.
Just because they don't follow your life and work style doesn't mean it is wrong or that they didn't work for it.
^THIS^
and many people on disability have mental issues and can't work a normal job without losing their medical benefits for their expensive meds and though their disability may pay their bills it won't pay much else so they supplement by picking up scrap metal(which they could not live on by it's self either) and that is a job they can do at their own pace without some boss breathing down their neck triggering what ever their mental illness is, plus have you ever driven around throwing refrigerators and washing machines on the back of a truck all day or night? people doing that are NOT lazy lol. .
Anyone who can legitimately retire "early" should do so. Life is short.
My former boss retired at 56 with a pension and one other source of income. He's a very happy guy. Surfs daily. Travels often. He made wise investments and deserves the life he's living.
We're not here for a long time, we're here for a good time!
Unfortunately, they produce absolutely nothing tangible.
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Originally Posted by AnnaGWS
You could say that about many jobs.
"You know what the trouble is, Brucey? We used to make **** in this country, build ****. Now we just put our hand in the next guy's pocket."
- Frank Sobotka, The Wire, season two (2003)
"COVID has shown us all how vulnerable our supply chains are, particularly in critical areas ... semi-conductors, batteries, solar panels. I mean, we used to make the stuff in America, we don't anymore. We've lost a lot of jobs and we are now vulnerable."
I know a dude who's been out of work since summer 2019 or so. Dude is in his mid 30s. He just lives in his parents' house and collects benefits. He might be on disability now, not sure, because he has a chronic illness (though I'm not sure it's the kind that qualifies you for disability benefits). I think the parents tolerate it because he's their only child and he has that illness.
Now just to be clear, I don't think that particular illness actually keeps him from working. He was canned at his last job for unrelated behavioral issues and that's really the reason he's out of work. He has in-demand qualifications, but his sporadic attempts to find work in his area end in failure (most likely due to his checkered work history).
His girlfriend is also unemployed and lives with him at his parents' house. They are most definitely *not* working. They're just getting by on the welfare state and their parents' care.
There is a lot of speculation and guesswork packed into your anecdote.
The article is bogus............only living off family/unemployment/lawsuits are considered "not working"
The rest isn't formal jobs, but it certainly isn't "not working"
Yahoo! puts out quite a few bad articles.
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