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Yes. Character. To say he doesn't means you can't look past your own blind partisanship.
A "man of character" doesn't strap his dog in a crate to the roof of his car for a twelve hour road trip while the luggage rides inside with the family.
A "woman of character" doesn't willingly get in the car with the dog on top and then laugh about it years later, saying the dog "liked" it.
A "man of character" doesn't, as a young man, gather five of his best buddies together to attack and assault another boy just for being different. A "man of character" doesn't, when asked about it years later, giggle, and say he doesn't remember.
A "man of character" doesn't brag about dressing up like a cop and driving around with a light on his car, stopping people (that actually goes beyond "character" - there's something sick and George Zimmerman-like about that).
A "man of character," when asked about a radio personality's three day attack on a young woman, instead of condemning the attack, doesn't simply say, "Those weren't the words I would have chosen."
A "man of character" would release his tax returns because that is what "men of character" do when they run for the highest office of the land.
Actually, what's sick and cruel is ObamaCare's 15-person unelected panel that will make life and death decisions. Repealing ObamaCare will get the government out of our personal healthcare decisions.
No, what's sick and cruel is that if Romney has his way, he'll continue to let the insurance companies make those decisions for us, and trust me, they aren't thinking about OUR well-being when they do so. My daughter started a new job, and just this morning she talked to her insurance carrier about her benefits only to discover that they won't cover anything that relates to several pre-existing conditions she has. That provision of ObamaCare doesn't take effect until next May. Romney promises to make sure that day never comes. Oh, but they'll continue to take her monthly premiums, while basically telling her she is going to have to continue to pay 100% out of pocket for the medical care she needs. Yes, by all means, let's return that power to turn people away to insurance companies. They care about our health, right?
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We are seeing the true war on women. The hate towards this woman, based on compete envy, is really disturbing.
Envy, jealousy, blah, blah, blah. If you had taken even five minutes to read through the objections people have with Ms. Romney you would know this is a blatant lie.
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And you haven't addressed your love affair with Michelle Obama, who is spoiled rich (not her own money right now, but rather ours) and pretends she isn't. How do you justify that in your head?
That's an easy one. Michelle Obama wasn't born to wealth, she and her husband earned what they have. How do you justify your view on Ms. Romney, who had everything handed to her, in YOUR head?
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Mitt is a self-made man and has accomplished more in his lifetime than that low life, Ted Kennnedy, who was born into lavish wealth, thanks to his boot legger father. On his own Ted Kennedy would never have amounted to a hill of beans. He was a womanizer, a hard drinker and left a young woman to die in a submerged car at Chappaquidick Island. Yet, Democrats lionize this low life.
Mitt certainly has lived his life--and accomplished more--than that low life, Ted Kennnedy, who was born into lavish wealth, thanks to his boot legger father. Ted Kennedy was a womanizer, a hard drinker and left a young woman to die in a submerged car at Chappaquidick Island. Yet, Democrats lionize this low life.
*Sigh*
So predictable.
When you have nothing else, you bring a guy who has been dead for what? three years? into the conversation.
And, yes, Teddy did do some bad things but he also did some wonderful things and dedicated his later years to helping those who needed it the most. Which is something the Romneys have NEVER done. They only care about helping themselves and other already incredibly rich people get even richer by raising taxes on the middle class while cutting taxes for themselves.
Blogs aren't news. And I'm pretty sure, to the "everyone must be equal" crowd on the left, who think that only democrats are allowed to be wealthy, that counts as news.
You obviously didn't read the article. Somehow I knew you wouldn't. Mustn't confuse you with the facts.
If Ann is going to get up there are tell everyone how well she relates to the AVERAGE working woman who had no choice, I would like Mitt to get up there and relate to the AVERAGE unemployed man who he put out of work and wiped out their pensions, by telling them how he can relate because he knows what it was like to go through hardship. How he lived in a basement apartment and had to cash in his stock to survive. And it was a struggle, but he got back on his feet and made milllions, and if he could do it, they too can do it.!!!!!
Let's be honest here. She's being criticized for being a conservative woman.
I've never had cancer. But I can say I understand what it's like to struggle with cancer. I may not know what it's like to HAVE cancer. But I can understand the struggle.
Let's be honest here. I don't criticize people for just being conservative. Most of my friends are conservatives. I live in a Republican stronghold. We're criticizing Ann Romney for her presenting herself as someone who understands the struggles of the average woman in America when clearly she has no point of reference other than being a damned good mother---the latter point is one that most Democrats here are giving her credit for doing.
1. No, but that's not what this topic is about. It's not about Ann Romney and the generosity and compassion she would bring to the position of first lady. It's about Ann Romney advising her husband about the issues of AVERAGE American women, and how much she fully understands about the lives of AVERAGE American women. I think Ann Romney has much to offer in insights about women. I just think that NEVER having to worry about the bills is a huge chasm to bridge with most Americans worrying about where the money is going to come from to pay basic bills.
While the question about whether or not she can help is not the specific question being raised, it is at the core of the issue and is what drives it - "Does she understand me enough to be able to identify what would make my life better?" The answer being given by those against her is "no" because she has not had the same experience, which brings up the question of whether she has to have the same experience to be able to help.
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2. I don't think you have to have the same identical experience, but I think you have to have similar experiences in order to truly relate. To me, this is the difference between empathy and sympathy. I think Ann Romney can sympathize, but I'm not sure she can empathize. Because she has no foundation of experience to empathize from. Her experiences in life have always been insulated by money. But even so, her life hasn't been a cakewalk. She's faced challenges, and she's overcome them. She's raised her children, and been an exemplary mother. I truly have nothing but respect for Mrs Romney.
I see where you're coming from, but I see it differently - a little. I think you need to have something in common in order to serve as an anchor for empathy. You have to be able to put yourself in someone else's shoes even though you may not have been in the same situation - what would I feel like if ______. For example, she absolutely loves her sons and can probably imagine the heartbreak of not being able to provide for them because of her love for them. If she had been poor, but did not have children, she could probably understand the stress of struggling to make ends meet with the addition of screaming kids though she would not have the experience of what a mother feels for her child. Thankfully, my family has remained safe and I pray for that daily, but based on my love for them, I can feel the anguish of a parent as I read news stories about bad things happening to children. It's not their exact experience, but I get it. I think you have to have something to anchor to in order to place yourself in their situation, and I think you have to care enough to do it.
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3. I don't know. I don't see the issue as a partisan issue. But clearly there are those on this thread that see it that way. I can't represent a partisan position. I like the Romneys. I also like the Obamas. I liked the McCains. I like the Clintons. I appreciate that everyone brings strengths and shortcomings to the table, and I think that it's fair to discuss those strengths and shortcomings. So my view of Ann Romney on this particular topic isn't so much on Ann Romney, but it's on Mitt Romney, who says his wife gives him insight into the lives and concerns of AVERAGE American women. I think Mitt Romney should rely on his wife for some of that insight, but I think he should look further, to other conservative women that have had more AVERAGE lives to draw those insights from. If Mitt Romney wins the election, I want him to have as broad a range as possible for his insights into the lives, concerns, and challenges of the American people. That's all.
I don't see it as a partisan issue in that it is directly relevant to party platform, but I do see it as falling into how a party tries to paint their opponent while ignoring what's in their own party. For example from the other side, Boehner complaining about pork and waste while we continue to build jet engines in his district that the pentagon doesn't want or need. It's just part of the narrative that one party tries to create - in this case, that the Republicans only care about the wealthy.
I agree with your point about Mitt Romney. I would expect him to consult with more than one person on any issue and I'm sure he does. It's hard to have the success he has had if you only ask one person and make a decision based on that one perspective.
Actually, what's sick and cruel is ObamaCare's 15-person unelected panel that will make life and death decisions."
DUH! No, they don't but right now Health Insurance executives actually DO make life and death decisions and if it costs them a penny it's death.
""" Repealing ObamaCare will get the government out of our personal healthcare decisions.
We are seeing the true war on women. The hate towards this woman, based on compete envy, is really disturbing.
And you haven't addressed your love affair with Michelle Obama, who is spoiled rich (not her own money right now, but rather ours) and pretends she isn't. How do you justify that in your head?
Why are you so jealous of Michelle???Oh, the hate and envy you show for a successful woman!!!
And no, the money she EARNS isn't ours or yours it's HERS....grinds your butt, don't it
Did you want to steal it back from her thinking it's yours??? Steal from the rich? Really!
No, actually, a selfish spoiled brat would be the person that insists that everyone else pay for their healthcare. Yea, I'm pretty sure you have a host of undiagnosed, phantom illnesses that make life difficult for you. And you would love nothing better than to have your healthcare handed to you on a silver platter. But as the person that has to struggle to pay their own bills, and the taxes that pay for the leeches of society, I will do whatever it takes to keep that from happening.
If you want SOCIALISM so badly, you might want to think about relocating. This country was built on self-sufficiency and self reliance.
BS! This country was built with TAXES....the Wealthy Gods don't have to pay their fair share but everyone else has to...and does.
If a person is totally self reliant they should live alone on an island and certainly not use any highways, infrastructure, courrt systems, parks, libraries, the MILITARY, nothing that is provided by the government....do you????
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