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Old 10-29-2012, 06:44 PM
 
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More conspiracy theory nonsense. Have you READ the US Constitution? ITs defined right in that document.

We still held elections during the Revolutionary War, the Civil War, World War I and World War II. A Natural disaster will not postpone any election.
So, Romney could "theorectically win" because of this hurricane??..

In my own humble opinion, given the results of the storm: millions may not get out to vote, or be able to vote, or even have a place "to" vote. How fair will that be to THEM if they wanted Obama and how fair would it be to our president to have thousands of missing votes??

This would cause a HUGE uproar if this does not have a fair outcome....
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Old 10-29-2012, 06:49 PM
 
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So, Romney could "theorectically win" because of this hurricane??..

In my own humble opinion, given the results of the storm: millions may not get out to vote, or be able to vote, or even have a place "to" vote. How fair will that be to THEM if they wanted Obama and how fair would it be to our president to have thousands of missing votes??

This would cause a HUGE uproar if this does not have a fair outcome....

the states are responsible for the Elections. They will have to determine how to get the people to the voting places, either by setting up temporary generators to run the polling places or direct people to where they can vote. Even if they have to run tour buses through neighborhoods to collect people to vote.

anyway, if they were smart, they would have done in mail-in voting or early voting. I have never once in the last 12 years, voted on Election day. I've always done mail in voting.
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Old 10-29-2012, 06:59 PM
 
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Executive order...........

Sec. 103. General Functions. Executive departments and agencies (agencies) responsible for plans and programs relating to national defense (as defined in section 801(j) of this order), or for resources and services needed to support such plans and programs, shall:
(a) identify requirements for the full spectrum of emergencies, including essential military and civilian demand;
(b) assess on an ongoing basis the capability of the domestic industrial and technological base to satisfy requirements in peacetime and times of national emergency, specifically evaluating the availability of the most critical resource and production sources, including subcontractors and suppliers, materials, skilled labor, and professional and technical personnel;
(c) be prepared, in the event of a potential threat to the security of the United States, to take actions necessary to ensure the availability of adequate resources and production capability, including services and critical technology, for national defense requirements;
(d) improve the efficiency and responsiveness of the domestic industrial base to support national defense requirements; and
(e) foster cooperation between the defense and commercial sectors for research and development and for acquisition of materials, services, components, and equipment to enhance industrial base efficiency and responsiveness.

Definitions.........

"(j) "National defense" means programs for military and energy production or construction, military or critical infrastructure assistance to any foreign nation, homeland security, stockpiling, space, and any directly related activity. Such term includes emergency preparedness activities conducted pursuant to title VI of the Robert T. Stafford Disaster Relief and Emergency Assistance Act, 42 U.S.C. 5195 et seq., and critical infrastructure protection and restoration."

Executive Order -- National Defense Resources Preparedness | The White House

http://fpc.state.gov/documents/organization/53688.pdf
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Old 10-29-2012, 07:22 PM
 
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thank you for that. But what does that have to do with Elections?
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Old 10-29-2012, 07:26 PM
 
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I guess you can't count either?
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Old 10-29-2012, 07:29 PM
 
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He didn't have an answer when Obama fired General Ham, commander AFRICOM for his attempt to save Ambassador Stevens.

And he didn't have an answer when Obama fired Rear Admiral Gaouette, who commanded the Mid-East Strike Force -- including US air assets at Aviano Air Base for "inappropriate leadership judgment" relating to the Benghazi attack.

And he didn't have an answer for why US forces were told to stand down and not support besieged consulate.
The entire thing is being swept under the rug and these two are having their careers destroyed for doing what they should have done. Sickening.
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Old 10-29-2012, 07:44 PM
 
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Obama does not want to delay voting any longer. That's why he is on a campaign for early voting. Extending it any further gives people more time to discover new truths, which is what he clearly does not want.
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Old 10-29-2012, 10:01 PM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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Jay Carney says he's not sure if Obama can delay/postpone the general election.

Jay Carney unsure if Obama has power to delay election over Hurricane Sandy - National Elections | Examiner.com

Wouldn't surprise me if this happened,...but who would have that authority?

Executive Order,...again?
If I'm not mistaken, the election date is set in the Constitution as the first Tuesday following the first Monday in November. If so...I believe it would take a constitutional amendment to change the date. As it should be...politicizing the date every time there is a rain storm would make for a real mess.

But, just to keep it fair, I heard on CNN that they are doing so...Republicans are to vote on November 6th, Dems the following Tuesday (November 13th). So Dems...you can all sleep in and rest easy next Tuesday.

*** edit to add, My mistake, not set by the Constitution:
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By federal law since 1792, the U.S. Congress permitted the states to conduct their presidential elections (or otherwise to choose their electors) any time in a 34-day period[1] before the first Wednesday of December, which was the day set for the meeting of the electors of the U.S. president and vice-president (the Electoral College), in their respective states.[2] An election date in November was seen as useful because the harvest would have been completed (important in an agrarian society) and the winter-like storms would not yet have begun in earnest (a plus in the days before paved roads and snowplows). However, in this arrangement the states that voted later could be influenced by a candidate's victories in the states that voted earlier, a problem later exacerbated by improved communications via train and telegraph. In close elections, the states that voted last might well determine the outcome.[3]

A uniform date for choosing presidential electors was instituted by the Congress in 1845.[4] Many theories have been advanced as to why the Congress settled on the first Tuesday after the first Monday in November.[5] The actual reasons, as shown in records of Congressional debate on the bill in December 1844, were fairly prosaic. The bill initially set the national day for choosing presidential electors on "the first Tuesday in November," in years divisible by four (1848, 1852, etc.). But it was pointed out that in some years the period between the first Tuesday in November and the first Wednesday in December (when the electors met in their state capitals to vote) would be more than 34 days, in violation of the existing Electoral College law. So, the bill was amended to move the national date for choosing presidential electors forward to the Tuesday after the first Monday in November, a date scheme already used in the state of New York.[6]

In 1845, the United States was largely an agrarian society. Farmers often needed a full day to travel by horse-drawn vehicles to the county seat to vote. Tuesday was established as election day because it did not interfere with the Biblical Sabbath or with market day, which was on Wednesday in many towns.[7]
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Old 10-29-2012, 10:02 PM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA
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But, just to keep it fair, I heard on CNN that they are doing so...Republicans are to vote on November 6th, Dems the following Tuesday (November 13th). So Dems...you can all sleep in and rest easy next Tuesday.
CNN has gone to **** recently, but even they don't screw up that bad.
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Old 10-29-2012, 10:08 PM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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CNN has gone to **** recently, but even they don't screw up that bad.
No, really. Huffington Post and MSNBC said the same thing.

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