Who do you support and why? (health care, 9/11, thought, legal)
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I support the huckster but only because I'm a Homer Arkansan. I would support Ron Paul if:
1) He had some charisma and
2) He would say something in debates other than "Bring our boys home now!" Ok Ok I know he occassionally says something else but in the last IA debate, he seemed to try to answer most every question by coming back to that.
RP's true conservative platform is the only hope we have to return our country to what I view as our true ideals but I'm afraid he lacks the charisma, credentials, and strength of personality to be any more than a whipping boy should he actually win.
We have had Presidents with Charisma, look how well that has worked. I want a real person, not a fast talking charmer.
I support Obama because I think he is the most likely to shake things up and to make real change in this country. I admire his personal history and I agree with most of his positions on the issues.
If Obama is not nominated I think that Sen. Clinton would make an excellent president.
We have had Presidents with Charisma, look how well that has worked. I want a real person, not a fast talking charmer.
Charisma doesn't mean fast talking charmer. It doesn't matter type of industry or field you're in but if you're trying to lead people, you will fail without some form of charisma (or dirt). And if you're going to try to accomplish things so out of character with our recent political climate as RP wants to do, you need it by the boat load to bring the other people over to what you want them to accomplish. The president obviously has little direct input over what actually gets accomplished in our country, thusly, the president MUST be able to bring the legislative branch around to his/her way of thinking.
Charisma doesn't mean fast talking charmer. It doesn't matter type of industry or field you're in but if you're trying to lead people, you will fail without some form of charisma (or dirt). And if you're going to try to accomplish things so out of character with our recent political climate as RP wants to do, you need it by the boat load to bring the other people over to what you want them to accomplish. The president obviously has little direct input over what actually gets accomplished in our country, thusly, the president MUST be able to bring the legislative branch around to his/her way of thinking.
How do you know he doesn't have Charisma? Met him? He never gets the time of day in the Media or time to really speak in the debates. I saw him speak at a convention , he is no pansy and can take alot of people on, if given the chance. All the other candidates are fast talking charmers.
How do you know he doesn't have Charisma? Met him? He never gets the time of day in the Media or time to really speak in the debates. I saw him speak at a convention , he is no pansy and can take alot of people on, if given the chance. All the other candidates are fast talking charmers.
good point! I've never seen him in person! Since AR isn't exactly important, I doubt I'll get much chance to ever hear him in person. One might could argue that the fact he doesn't get much face time with the media is wholly a result of his lack of charisma but I don't believe that and I doubt many of us here would. All I have to go on is what gets spoon fed to me by the media and that's probably all I'm going to get. We make our decisions on the best data we can access and my judgements are based upon that.
And I totally disagree about all the candidates being fast talking charmers!! Rudy may be a fast talker but he's certainly no charmer!
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good point! I've never seen him in person! Since AR isn't exactly important, I doubt I'll get much chance to ever hear him in person. One might could argue that the fact he doesn't get much face time with the media is wholly a result of his lack of charisma but I don't believe that and I doubt many of us here would. All I have to go on is what gets spoon fed to me by the media and that's probably all I'm going to get. We make our decisions on the best data we can access and my judgements are based upon that.
And I totally disagree about all the candidates being fast talking charmers!! Rudy may be a fast talker but he's certainly no charmer!
LOL about Rudy!!!!!!!!! You are right there.
The media keeps us from seeing the "underdogs" probably because they are not for big business, which the media is.
The media keeps us from seeing the "underdogs" probably because they are not for big business, which the media is.
Right now it's totally in the hands of Iowa and NH as to whether those of us like myself who agree with his vision in principle and might turn out to vote for him can see enough to know for sure if he's got what it really takes.
Right now it's totally in the hands of Iowa and NH as to whether those of us like myself who agree with his vision in principle and might turn out to vote for him can see enough to know for sure if he's got what it really takes.
I just want people to stop voting like sheep and vote for the person they most believe in, not "who has a chance" That is the dumbest thing.
I support Fred Thompson. He is the most consistent Conservative of the Republicans. I like his positions on the war (Win), immigration (Fence plus punish bad companies), social issues (pro-life), and taxes (flat tax, abolish the IRS as we know it).
I will never vote for a Democrat again - buncha Copperhead Commies
Last edited by Reactionary; 12-18-2007 at 02:42 PM..
Reason: Removed the word "idiots" used to describe Democrats - I'm trying to be nicer...
I don't like any of the candidates. Never before have I felt this way in the primaries. Ron Paul is mostly fine, except I do believe Universal Healthcare needs to be created in some shape or form, and I also believe outsourcing needs to be curbed with regulatory action before the damage to the US economy is irreversible. Obama is fine except he hasn't been in politics long enough for any of us to really know him, see him establish political connections, nor to really see him have a track record of success. Hillary has character issues everyone now recognizes and she supports outsourcing, India and China a bit too much for my comfort. Huckabee won't get our troops out of Iraq.
I could go on and on... not a single person has all my views. It's pathetic because I believe I'm not off the wall with anything... it's the politicians who are screwed up. Why people are party-aligned right now I cannot fathom.. because not a single party has everything right. We need to get out of Iraq, reinstitute freedoms, get a handle on corporate globalization and greed at the expense of American people and the environment, reform healthcare, reform social security, balance the federal budget and lastly, eliminate the trade imbalance.
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Obama and then Clinton
