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Old 10-03-2015, 08:24 AM
 
Location: Lyon, France, Whidbey Island WA
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http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/03/us...T.nav=top-news
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Old 10-03-2015, 08:33 AM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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This is B.S. In several states homosexual marriage lost in democractic elections, but were overturned by liberal judges. When you left wingers don't get what you want you file lawsuits and wear people out. Why don't you people get productive jobs? Suing working Americans for your left-wing lifestyle is not productive IMHO.
Sorry that you don't think the purpose of judges is to uphold people's constitutional rights when the legislature tries to deny those rights. It's laughable that you decry going to court to win justice. That's why there are courts.

I assume you were against the 1967 Supreme Court case, Loving vs. Virginia, which struck down the then popular law that forbid people of different races from marrying.
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Old 10-03-2015, 08:49 AM
 
Location: Phoenix
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Hillary may survive to win the Dem nomination but she's going down in the Presidential election if she survives the Dems cycle.
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Old 10-03-2015, 08:54 AM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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The way the bad news keeps up for Hillary, they're going to have to hold the Dem debates in her jail cell while she awaits trial.
That's just right-wing fantasy. To be held in jail one must be convicted of a crime. There is no indication that even the far-fetched claims come remotely near criminal activity. Sorry to burst your bubble.

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Have you even listened to Bernie Sanders or, to a lesser degree Clinton with their tax plans?

From you post, I would guess not since you complain about raising taxes and that is the substance of their policies.
Yes, I have listened to their proposals.

Bernie Sanders would add a tax on Wall Street trades that would add $750 billion to the Treasury. Given that transaction costs have fallen dramatically over the last few decades, that's a tax that can easily be absorbed. Sanders would also raise taxes on those earning more than $250,000 a year; raise taxes on capital gains and probably add a tax on the super-wealthy. When one remembers that the top taxes under Reagan were 50% on ordinary income and 40% for long-term capital gains, Sanders' proposals are far from radical.

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One of these candidates does not fit your description and the other is out of step with this not leftist nation.
Policies that you call "leftist" were once called mainstream. During the time of Teddy Roosevelt, it was commonplace and widely accepted to support high taxes on the rich specifically in order to keep the rich from getting richer.

America's founding was to get away from the hereditary aristocracy that existed in Britain. Modern conservatives have done a reversal with their insistence that people keep inherited money that they didn't work to create and support the pre-Revolution view of aristocracy. It isn't liberals that are out-of-step.

In poll after poll, Americans support higher taxes on wealth, regulations that protect the public, etc. Americans "say" they are more conservative but when asked about specific policies, respond that they like liberal policies.
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Old 10-03-2015, 09:01 AM
 
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As much as I would like to see Sanders get the nod, HRC will win the primaries and kick the GOP nominee's butt.


They will lose the core of their party as it becomes known that they want to end SS and medicare. They want to get rid of the VA. That's their core and every candidate has said lets get rid of it all, it's all on tape and the media will love to show it over and over.
Exactly! The GOP wants to privatize all public services in order to do the bidding of their puppeteers.
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Old 10-03-2015, 09:12 AM
 
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Republicans did this last time with Herman Cane. They trot out a black candidate, make him rise in the poles, then,as fast as his numbers go up they go back down. Let's see if they do this with Carson. I don't think the Republicans will vot for him. It's all a charade.
Yes, the majority of Americans will vote for a physician, no less, who, in 2015, claims evolution is the work of the devil. I guess that makes America "exceptional" or something.
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Old 10-03-2015, 10:38 AM
 
Location: Tampa, FL
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Hilary is Done. She didn't get the memo.
your guy McCarthy just threw her a lifevest
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Old 10-03-2015, 10:47 AM
 
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your guy McCarthy just threw her a lifevest
Yep. And Conservatives are fuming about it. Eric Erickson of Red State:

"McCarthy, the man Republicans are looking at to be the next Speaker, just handed Hillary Clinton a campaign commercial and gave the left-media their newest talking point. McCarthy actually admitted that the Benghazi committee was designed to hurt Hillary Clinton politically and the left is having a field day.

You Want This Guy As Speaker? | RedState
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Old 10-03-2015, 03:44 PM
 
Location: Lyon, France, Whidbey Island WA
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Yes "New polls say she is leading"....completely false but hey alls fair... People don't really like her. That's her problem.
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Old 10-03-2015, 03:48 PM
 
Location: Tampa, FL
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Hillary may survive to win the Dem nomination but she's going down in the Presidential election if she survives the Dems cycle.
you base this on your personal polling or a crystal ball of some sort?
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