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Old 07-07-2016, 03:53 PM
 
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Well, today we discovered that only three of the emails were marked and the marking was done improperly way down the email chain. The mark they used was a (c). One of the emails was viewed by a thousand people, not just Hillary. So, do you think we should charge all 1,000 people?

Secondly, Comey said she is not knowledgeable about technology. (I think he said she was naïve about technology.)

If you don't like what Comey said, you don't have to vote for her. Vote for someone else.
Yes, every one of those people should be charged. There's a reason it's marked classified.

So Clinton's a moron with regards to technology. Yea, I want her in the oval office.

This has nothing to do with voting, and everything to do with the truth. Which Dems should care about, but never do, because of partisan loyalty.
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Old 07-07-2016, 04:21 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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Yes, every one of those people should be charged. There's a reason it's marked classified.

So Clinton's a moron with regards to technology. Yea, I want her in the oval office.

This has nothing to do with voting, and everything to do with the truth. Which Dems should care about, but never do, because of partisan loyalty.
Hmmmm, let's see here. One is a moron with regards to technology while the other one is a moron about foreign policy, world economics, congress, and the constitution. Hmmmm, who to vote for, .

Boy that's a tough one,........not.
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Old 07-07-2016, 04:31 PM
 
Location: Big Island of Hawaii & HOT BuOYS Sailing Vessel
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Go ahead use this skeleton in the closet. oh wait you already used it. toooooo bad.

So GOP punters where is your Swift Boat for Veterans?
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Old 07-07-2016, 06:22 PM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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To point out the blatant hypocrisy of the right. Bush lied and thousands died, and nary a Conservative cared one teeny, tiny whit.

But now, suddenly, you guys are ALL ABOUT THE TRUTH!

Yeah, sure.
What did Bush lie about that caused thousands to die?
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Old 07-08-2016, 04:17 AM
 
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I worry much more about a politician who lies about important things that affect public policy ... like there being "reliable evidence" of Iraq having WMDs in 2002 ... than about a politician who lies to cover up a mistake or bad judgement.
All of the western intel agencies said that Saddam had WMDs.

Even Saddam's own generals believed he had them.

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Part of how he increased our debt was taking this country out of the nosedive Republicans left it in after Bush left office and pulling out of the impending Great Recession by stimulating the economy with a spending plan. This was absolutely necessary to keep markets from crashing and burning like they did in 1929.

Republicans don't understand how this work, furthermore, they don't understand they are responsible for it.
The only people responsible for the Great Recession were Democrats with their "let's make home loans to poor people, minorities and illegal aliens" program.

Andrew Cuomo, Clinton's HUD Secretary, ordered Fannie and Freddy to buy $2.4 trillion in subprime loans over a ten year period starting in 1999.

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And Hillary Clinton supported invading Iraq at the time even though critics have said the Iraq War will produce no WMD. Trump openly said he does not support invading Iraq at the time and people ridiculed him for saying it back then and now.
Exactly.

Pretty much all the Democrats supported "regime change" in Iraq, and made speeches claiming that Saddam had WMDs that were a threat to us -- Hillary Clinton, Bill Clinton, Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, John Kerry...the list goes on....

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"Comey testifies to Congress: "Hillary Clinton did not lie to FBI". (And he's a staunch Republican praised by the republican establishment.)

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...paign-election
She lied to everyone else.

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More like, "She's a powerful woman who has consistently stood up to the continued assaults from the republican disinformation machine." Just what the Dems need to break the republican strangle hold on our government, congress and our country.
What "stranglehold"?

In case you haven't noticed, the Boy King is still our president.

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Got a cite for that? What bunch and what classified info?
Try paying attention to the news.

From the deleted emails, Comey found 110 that contained classified information.

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No, kind of like the GOP didn't care that Bush lied to the country.
All the western intel agencies said that Saddam had WMDs.

I guess if Bush had done nothing, and Saddam had planted a dirty bomb in New York harbor, you libs would be praising Bush.

Yeah, right.

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Is Bush running for President? Is it still 2008?
The libs are so desperate now, they're going all the way back to Reagan and Nixon.

I'm waiting for them to talk about Hoover and Coolidge!

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By the way, the "lies" you're complaining about were shared and amplified by Hillary. Donald Trump is the only one running for President who didn't amplify and repeat the lies you're so miffed about. Glad to see you're on the Trump train.
Well said.

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Originally Posted by HeyJude514 View Post
To point out the blatant hypocrisy of the right. Bush lied and thousands died, and nary a Conservative cared one teeny, tiny whit.

But now, suddenly, you guys are ALL ABOUT THE TRUTH!

Yeah, sure.
So again, another lib who denies that all the western intel agencies thought that Saddam had WMDs.

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A document does not have to be marked classified to be classified. The nature of the content is what makes it classified, not the marking.
Exactly.

But how would Hillary know? She was only Secretary of State, and the State Department handles classified documents all the time.

So it's SO UNFAIR to expect little Hillary to know....

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It is a violation of federal law to store classified government data on a non-government, unsecure server. That's a fact. And that's exactly what she did. The ONLY reason she isn't in jail is because she's a Clinton.
Exactly.
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Old 07-08-2016, 04:34 AM
 
Location: The Island of Misfit Toys
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The thing most people are misunderstanding is there is no evidence Clinton lied. Only that she answered to the best of her ability at the time with the resources and information she had at hand.

Whatever the FBI uncovered later as part of an exhaustive professional investigation that was contrary to what she said may have just not have been information at her disposal at her testimony as she and her team did not have the technology and investigative powers of the FBI.
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Old 07-08-2016, 04:40 AM
 
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The thing most people are misunderstanding is there is no evidence Clinton lied. Only that she answered to the best of her ability at the time with the resources and information she had at hand.

Whatever the FBI uncovered later as part of an exhaustive professional investigation that was contrary to what she said may have just not have been information at her disposal at her testimony as she and her team did not have the technology and investigative powers of the FBI.
Your tendons most be hurting from all that "reaching."
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Old 07-08-2016, 04:47 AM
 
Location: The Island of Misfit Toys
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But how would Hillary know? She was only Secretary of State, and the State Department handles classified documents all the time.

So it's SO UNFAIR to expect little Hillary to know....

Exactly.
This is where you are lost:

You're expecting Hillary to be PERFECT and thus conclude imperfection equals guilt.

But all she needed to do was be complying with the rules for not storing classified data on a non government server to the best of her ability, which she did. If she missed some while trying to comply with the rules to the best of her knowledge, that is not evidence of guilt or knowledge of guilt. She thought she had forwarded all classified emails to a government server and deleted all copies from her non government server. I believe, at the time, that was the protocol.

But imperfection does not give you reason to conclude either knowledge or guilt.

Yes she did miss some classified emails but not intentionally. So as the FBI director concluded, you could only say she was careless, but not intentionally careless.
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Old 07-08-2016, 05:25 AM
 
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...all she needed to do was be complying with the rules for not storing classified data on a non government server to the best of her ability, which she did.
Really?

If I could give you a grade for "not paying attention," the grade I would give you would be an 'A+'.
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Old 07-08-2016, 05:34 AM
 
Location: Tampa Florida
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What law did she break?

It's been established that none of the documents were marked classified, except for three, which have now been reclassified as never having been classified.
Actually, even those 3 weren't classified. They had the (C) markings that indicated the possibility of them being marked classified pending review. That is why the Document was not Stamped Classified as is required per the Documents Marking rules. Basically makes those 3 "nonpaper". Comey was demonstrating what has become something very rare these days, a Republican with Integrity.

Emails Were Confidential, With a ‘C’ - The New York Times
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