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Old 08-31-2016, 05:42 PM
 
Location: Pasadena, CA
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Originally Posted by AnesthesiaMD View Post
Reuters/ipsos has Clinton +1 in a two man race, and Clinton +2 in a four man race.

RealClearPolitics - 2016 Election 2016 Presidential Polls
Putting it mildly, those results are a rarity.

The vast majority of polls show that third party candidates pry more support away from HRC than Trump.

Clinton's third-party headache - POLITICO

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The extent to which Johnson and Stein are cutting into Clinton’s lead is small but fairly consistent. In the 15 major national polls conducted since the first night of the Republican convention last month that included both the two-way and four-way ballot tests, Clinton has had a smaller lead over Trump in nine, and her lead has been unchanged in five of them. In only in one of the surveys has Clinton’s lead actually increased when Johnson and Stein are included.
I guess this latest Reuters poll makes two.

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Old 08-31-2016, 05:51 PM
 
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Awesome post eh...the third one today on Hillary's popularity being bad...well not quite as unpopular as the dumpsters, but what the heck, why let facts get in the way of your posts. Best of all, this one is linked to Alex Jones, a true miscreant if there ever was one.
 
Old 08-31-2016, 05:54 PM
 
Location: FL
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Can someone please explain why Trump fans are so happy to see these numbers when Trump's numbers are worse?

They skip over that part.
 
Old 08-31-2016, 06:04 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Can someone please explain why Trump fans are so happy to see these numbers when Trump's numbers are worse?
That's what they say, don't think I believe them though.
 
Old 08-31-2016, 06:22 PM
 
Location: Caverns measureless to man...
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Originally Posted by ~HecateWhisperCat~ View Post
Yeah that's what is never discussed. Trump isn't making any gains. Hillary is just losing her post convention bounce is all. The question is can that change? Neither of them seem to be able to really move their numbers much at all.
That's what the **********s either keep ignoring, or simply do not understand. Trump cannot break 40% of the vote. He's maxed out at 40% tops. Trump fans have convinced themselves that somehow all the undecided voters are going to flock to Trump at the last minute, when in fact that's extremely unlikely.

Undecided voters who make up their minds at the last minute tend to be the most cautious, prudent, deliberate voters. As you get down to the last weeks, days, and hours before people have to cast their ballots, the undecided voters look at the two candidates and ask themselves, which of these two people do i trust more to run the country? Voters who are by nature already very cautious are far less likely to choose someone as unstable as Trump when it comes down that moment of last-minute, serious reflection.

Face it, **********s. Your idol has been stuck in the mid-high 30s since the conventions. Hillary's numbers ebb and flow, but she remains solidly within the range she needs to win the race.
 
Old 08-31-2016, 07:22 PM
 
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Hillary fans are starting to crack. Now searching for every excuse they can find to explain Hillary's lead evaporating.

Trump nation rising up. Hooorahh.

BTW -

Gravis (Arizona)

Trump 44%
Hillary 40%

Trump might be starting to take AZ back off the table.

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Old 08-31-2016, 07:30 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Mr. In-Between View Post
That's what the **********s either keep ignoring, or simply do not understand. Trump cannot break 40% of the vote. He's maxed out at 40% tops. Trump fans have convinced themselves that somehow all the undecided voters are going to flock to Trump at the last minute, when in fact that's extremely unlikely.

Undecided voters who make up their minds at the last minute tend to be the most cautious, prudent, deliberate voters. As you get down to the last weeks, days, and hours before people have to cast their ballots, the undecided voters look at the two candidates and ask themselves, which of these two people do i trust more to run the country? Voters who are by nature already very cautious are far less likely to choose someone as unstable as Trump when it comes down that moment of last-minute, serious reflection.

Face it, **********s. Your idol has been stuck in the mid-high 30s since the conventions. Hillary's numbers ebb and flow, but she remains solidly within the range she needs to win the race.
Is it helping you sleep better by thinking Trump somehow can't break 40%, thus he will lose?
 
Old 08-31-2016, 07:38 PM
 
Location: Pasadena, CA
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Originally Posted by eddiehaskell View Post
Hillary fans are starting to crack. Now searching for every excuse they can find to explain Hillary's lead evaporating.

Trump nation rising up. Hooorahh.

BTW -

Gravis

Trump 44%
Hillary 40%

Trump might be starting to take AZ back off the table.
You mean Breitbart/Gravis, yes?

Let me get this straight--a right-leaning pollster has Trump winning by a four in a state Romney carried by nine... and you're celebrating?

Let me know when Trump nation consistently rises above its usual mediocre 40-42% of the vote. Until then... Yawn.
 
Old 08-31-2016, 07:42 PM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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Originally Posted by eddiehaskell View Post
Hillary fans are starting to crack. Now searching for every excuse they can find to explain Hillary's lead evaporating.

Trump nation rising up. Hooorahh.

BTW -

Gravis (Arizona)

Trump 44%
Hillary 40%

Trump might be starting to take AZ back off the table.
Only 4 on Gravis? Wow, I did not think it was that close here. Even if he did lead by that, just a little more turnout by Hispanics could flip the thing to Clinton. There is a very active voter registration effort going on to get AZ latinos to register and vote. Who knows? Could McCain go too?
 
Old 08-31-2016, 08:02 PM
 
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No confusion. At all. Favorables and unfavorables play a role. Why else would campaigns spend gazillions on negative character advertising? Why go back to Mitt Romney's boarding school boy days in the 2012 race, for instance? In June or July of that election year if I remember correctly.

Not saying a big role, but the folks that run campaigns spend enough, so they must think it is important.
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You are confusing the election polls with the favorable/unfavorable polls. Clinton is doing well in the election polls, but her favorability has dropped to that of Trump.
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