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Exactly so! Wallace was by far the best moderator I've seen in several elections. The candidates? No comment...
I do agree that Wallace was SUPERB - best moderator I have EVER seen at such a debate - not just this election cycle, but ANY election cycle. He's very tough on both candidates but very fair AND he took no nonsense from the audience.
based on what?......he passed NAFTA, that didn't help the working class
"Bill Clinton was certainly a supporter of NAFTA who pushed approval through Congress. But it was negotiated and signed by President George H.W. Bush. Moreover, more Republicans than Democrats voted for the deal, as the trade pact was vehemently opposed by labor unions. One key ally for Clinton was then-House Minority Whip Newt Gingrich
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........he ignored Al Qaeda and was too cozy with Saudi Arabia while Saudi's were in our soil training under our noses for 9/11.
he started the mass incarceration that put a lot of black Americans in jail.
The trend toward increased incarceration began in the early 1970s, and quadrupled in the ensuing four decades. A two-year study by the National Research Council... cited policies enacted by officials at all levels that expanded the use of incarceration, largely in response to decades of rising crime. “In the 1970s, the numbers of arrests and court caseloads increased, and prosecutors and judges became harsher in their charging and sentencing,” the report states. “In the 1980s, convicted defendants became more likely to serve prison time.” Indeed, this trend continued with tough-on-crime policies through the 1990s as well, but to lay the blame for the incarceration trend entirely, or even mostly, at the feet of the 1994 crime bill ignores the historical trend.
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But you admire that? lol
I don't like Bill Clinton, I never have liked him, but what I admire is reading posts that reflect the truth, not hyperbole
This is the tough situation Trumpists find themselves in - and it happens to be the same tough situation that Bernie Bros. would have found themselves in: They both sought the White House by way of trying to co-opt the broad support of a political party that did not espouse their core values close enough to justify their running for the nomination of that party, and therefore they cannot escape the reality that "their own party" is responsible for much of what they don't like. They both hid behind the rationalization that there's no other way to grab power, but that's a dodge: The Republicans built support from 1854 to 1860, even earning the speakership before running for POTUS for the first time (and losing).
Obama didn't, not once, try to work with the Republicans, either when they were in the minority or afterwards.
What he did do was send legislation up to the Hill than he knew would be dead on arrival so he could then politicize the process and claim Congress was obstructionist.
Who was it that told the Republicans to sit down and shut up because elections have consequences. Or talked about bringing a gun to a knife fight.
He has been the poster child for a "My way or the highway" President.
You're entitled to opinions, not facts.
How's the weather there in UPSIDE DOWN world?
Here in REALITY, what happened is the exact opposite of what you say.
Courting their deplorable base, the republicans jumped on the "I hope he fails" train early on -- and did everything they could to "make sure he was a 1 term president". They were OBSTRUCTIONIST and went even further -- DISRESPECTING THE OFFICE in order to humiliate the guy. Repugnant.
...But hey -- SUBTERFUGE is the reactionary's "go to" tool. So you spout stuff like "Obama's a dictator" "he's a nazi!" and all other forms of nonsense.
Jeesh -- I wouldn't even want to understand the kind of mind that has to wallow in blatant lies all its life in order justify its world view ... hell - in order to get out of bed in the morning! I'd be afraid I might somehow get stuck in there.
I agree 100%. My ballot is going in the mail today, and for the first time ever I am voting against every Republican on the ticket. In races where there was no one other than a Republican running, I voted for no one.
The only exception to this I would have considered would have been Jeff Flake, since he had the courage to come out against Trump right from the start, but he's not up for reelection this cycle.
Good work! You won't be alone, because I will be doing exactly the same.
I agree 100%. My ballot is going in the mail today, and for the first time ever I am voting against every Republican on the ticket. In races where there was no one other than a Republican running, I voted for no one.
The only exception to this I would have considered would have been Jeff Flake, since he had the courage to come out against Trump right from the start, but he's not up for reelection this cycle.
Did the same thing. McConnell's pledge to obstruct made me do it.
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The candidates? No comment...
