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Old 01-05-2017, 11:09 PM
 
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What if he was? What do you gain now? Trump isn't going to change. The GOP isn't going to change. If they think they then have the upper hand that is probably worse than Trump.

You think he would step down? No way and even if he did a Pence presidency would be far worse.

It's not going to stand. It's not going to make anyone do anything. The Constitution lays out the requirements, a state can't change that.
I expect Trump supporters to excuse any behavior he does but Democrats do not have to support it and they can make it harder for him to get on the ballot in 2020 and they can make Republicans own it.
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Old 01-05-2017, 11:24 PM
 
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It's not going to stand. It's not going to make anyone do anything. The Constitution lays out the requirements, a state can't change that.
The Constitution doesn't state what is required, that is left up to the states on what it takes to get on a state ballot.
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Old 01-05-2017, 11:31 PM
 
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I expect Trump supporters to excuse any behavior he does but Democrats do not have to support it and they can make it harder for him to get on the ballot in 2020 and they can make Republicans own it.
There is zero chances anything they do will keep him off the ballot.
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Old 01-05-2017, 11:33 PM
 
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There is zero chances anything they do will keep him off the ballot.
Time will tell.
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Old 01-05-2017, 11:38 PM
 
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There is zero chances anything they do will keep him off the ballot.
If this were to pass in time in those states, he wouldn't be on the ballot in those states unless he released his tax information. Granted by then we will all be well aware of all his conflicts of interests. This would more be for future elections, post Trump's dumpster fire era.
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Old 01-05-2017, 11:45 PM
 
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If it requires someone to give up rights while being audited, a federal judge may toss it aside. Someone under investigation by the government should not be compelled to provide disputed evidence to the public.
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Old 01-05-2017, 11:58 PM
 
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If it requires someone to give up rights while being audited, a federal judge may toss it aside. Someone under investigation by the government should not be compelled to provide disputed evidence to the public.
Showing someone's tax returns has no effect on an audit, even the IRS said that during the election.
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Old 01-06-2017, 12:45 AM
 
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And if they challenge them, they have to go on record saying they do not want their presidential candidate to provide tax returns.
No, they would have to go on record saying they do not want presidential candidates (not just their candidate) to be REQUIRED to provide tax returns, which isn't the same thing as not wanting them to provide tax returns.
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Old 01-06-2017, 01:22 AM
 
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If this were to pass in time in those states, he wouldn't be on the ballot in those states unless he released his tax information. Granted by then we will all be well aware of all his conflicts of interests. This would more be for future elections, post Trump's dumpster fire era.
Tricks in place of good legitimate candidates. If one has a good candidate none of this stuff is needed.
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Old 01-06-2017, 01:36 AM
 
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Tricks in place of good legitimate candidates. If one has a good candidate none of this stuff is needed.
Every president for the past forty years has provided their tax returns. Trump is the first to refuse. His behavior since then is making it worse, as he attacks U.S. Intelligence agencies in favor of Putin and chooses a Secretary of State nominee who is a close friend of Putin. Who would have thought it would be necessary to compel the presidential candidate to provide their tax returns but now it has become necessary.
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