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Old 12-02-2017, 09:23 AM
 
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I wouldn't be surprised if Moore won. Trump won with allegations against him, even with a tape of him grabbing women's body parts and laughing about it. Our country has lost it's morals. Moore is no christian. It's a facade he hides behind. I have many relatives in Alabama who won't vote for Moore because they believe the allegations against him. But they won't vote democratic either, so they will just stay home.
Why not?

 
Old 12-02-2017, 07:07 PM
 
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I fully expect Moore to win, albeit narrowly, if only because due to the hypocrisy and double standard of the left on the issue of allegations of sexual assault and harassment. If the left was consistent (they call on Moore to step aside, while not making similar calls for Franken, who is photographed molesting a sleeping woman, or Conyers, who paid to settle sexual harassment claims against him) with their criticism and behavior in response to such issues, their candidate would stand a stronger chance in the election.

But I don't see Moore openly defying McConnell, although I think McConnell wished that he would as it would mean that they wouldn't be tied together as much. I think Moore will work with the GOP in an effort to win the next election, which is NO sure bet. I think many GOP primary voters--even if they will vote for him on election day next month--are kicking themselves for backing this man in the first place, even if they don't believe the allegations against him. It would be in Moore's best electoral interests to show that he's capable of being effective, which requires more work with the establishment in the Senate. Controversy surrounding an already controversial man would not be good for Moore.
Yep the lefts double standard of the left is why people will ignore their fake moral superiority claims but we all know they will anyway. Déjà vu, judge Moore is getting the Democrat boilerplate Herman Cain treatment while Bill Clinton got a pass. And then there is McCain, who committed adultery, divorced his wife to marry the woman with whom he committed adultery demanding that Judge Moore resign from the senate race, as if he has the moral high ground.

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Old 12-02-2017, 09:53 PM
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Yep the lefts double standard of the left is why people will ignore their fake moral superiority claims but we all know they will anyway. Déjà vu, judge Moore is getting the Democrat boilerplate Herman Cain treatment while Bill Clinton got a pass. And then there is McCain, who committed adultery, divorced his wife to marry the woman with whom he committed adultery demanding that Judge Moore resign from the senate race, as if he has the moral high ground.
The problem with your Bill Clinton argument is that the media and the people focused on him cheating on Hillary and not the rape/sexual harassment allegations.

No one should leave office because they are unfaithful to their partner, so by making it about cheating, you basically force every person who ever cheated to ask themselves, " Should i be fired because i cheated...."

Every single person mentally answered that question no. And that is why people like Speaker Gingrich looks like such a hypocrite cheating on his wives.

If they had made it about the sexual harassment, Bill Clinton would have been removed from office, but they didnt.

Hermain Cain was about the harassment, not cheating.

Moore's situation is indeed about him attempting to force himself on 14-17 year olds.

and the fact that you have to go back that far to make your argument(while negating the hypocrisy) is laughable.
 
Old 12-02-2017, 10:25 PM
 
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Why not?
I have no idea, they just won't.
 
Old 12-02-2017, 11:57 PM
 
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I have no idea, they just won't.
LOL.

That sounds like a non answer, but it's actually a great answer.

IMO, it hints that you know well how stubborn they are, that if you did poke and prod and get an answer, that you wouldn't like the answer....and if not liking the answer didn't give you an ulcer, trying to get them to justify the answer would .
 
Old 12-03-2017, 01:59 AM
 
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I have no idea, they just won't.
They probably don't, either.
 
Old 12-03-2017, 03:09 AM
 
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Imagine what happens if Democrat run a dream team ( by which i mean locally relevant ) of candidates in 2018. And republicans nominate horrible candidates like they did in 2010.
Well the Republicans won 6 Senate seats in 2010 and could have won 7 if Mike Castle got the Republican nomination in Delaware.

I predict the Republicans will also gain Senate seats in 2018!
 
Old 12-03-2017, 07:06 PM
 
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Well the Republicans won 6 Senate seats in 2010 and could have won 7 if Mike Castle got the Republican nomination in Delaware.

I predict the Republicans will also gain Senate seats in 2018!
several GOP 2018 gains. Great map.
 
Old 12-04-2017, 04:57 PM
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Well the Republicans won 6 Senate seats in 2010 and could have won 7 if Mike Castle got the Republican nomination in Delaware.

I predict the Republicans will also gain Senate seats in 2018!
the Republicans won 6 seats, but it should have been 9, and lets remember that in Alaska, the incumbent Republican actually lost, and then won on a write in campaign.
 
Old 12-04-2017, 05:33 PM
 
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The problem with your Bill Clinton argument is that the media and the people focused on him cheating on Hillary and not the rape/sexual harassment allegations.
Not anymore...

CNN Host Goes Into Crisis Mode as Tables Turn From Roy Moore to Bill Clinton's Rape Accusations


i.e. Using the Left's own standards for Moore, it's perfectly acceptable to call Bill Clinton a rapist. Can't have it both ways.
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