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If the NC GA authorizes a new election, there would have to be primaries again. This means, interestingly, that the candidates that may end up running in the general would not be Harris and McCready.
I don't remember who ran against McCready, so I don't know his chances. On the other hand, Pittenger may very will win it over Harris. McCready ran an amazing $6M in negative adverts agains Harris and he carries that now.
Should that be the case, that would be very bad news for McCready. I don't think that McCready has it in him to beat Pittenger. His entire election strategy was to make himsef out as an anti-Pelosi Democrat who identifies more with Republican, and to paint Harris as a religious nut. That won't work agaist Pittinger.
Even more to the point McCready may be tainted by this mess too. Many perceive it as a Democrat plot to steal the election given the lack of real information.
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If the NC GA authorizes a new election, there would have to be primaries again. This means, interestingly, that the candidates that may end up running in the general would not be Harris and McCready.
I don't remember who ran against McCready, so I don't know his chances. On the other hand, Pittenger may very will win it over Harris. McCready ran an amazing $6M in negative adverts agains Harris and he carries that now.
Should that be the case, that would be very bad news for McCready. I don't think that McCready has it in him to beat Pittenger. His entire election strategy was to make himsef out as an anti-Pelosi Democrat who identifies more with Republican, and to paint Harris as a religious nut. That won't work agaist Pittinger.
You say this about every democrat who says they wont vote for Pelosi, that seems to be the only thing you can ever say to claim they identify as "more" republican, LOL
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Even more to the point McCready may be tainted by this mess too. Many perceive it as a Democrat plot to steal the election given the lack of real information.
I will never understand this degree of lying to yourself.
You say this about every democrat who says they wont vote for Pelosi, that seems to be the only thing you can ever say to claim they identify as "more" republican, LOL I will never understand this degree of lying to yourself.
Here he is in his own words. He says the democrat party along with the republican has failed us and he won't vote for Pelosi.
Of course if you actually lived here, you'd would have seen this since they ran it for 2 straight months in the Charlotte market. So next time you come here to call me a liar, try to at least have your ducks lined up first.
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Of course if you actually lived here, you'd would have seen this since they ran it for 2 straight months in the Charlotte market. So next time you come here to call me a liar, try to at least have your ducks lined up first.
McCready wasn't the only Democratic candidate to say that he wouldn't vote for Pelosi. I haven't heard anyone say that the Democrats are trying to steal an election that was fairly won. I do hear comments that Harris stole the election and the primary.
They've found pictures of Harris with Dowless. People have come forward to dispute Harris' claim that he knew nothing about Dowless' methods. People are coming forward to say that they told Harris what Dowless did with absentee ballots, just like they came forward to say that Dowless was promised $40,000 if Harris won.
If a new election is ordered, it could be Pittenger vs McCready. If it is, I wouldn't want to guess who would win. It would just depend on who came out to vote.
If a new election is ordered, it could be Pittenger vs McCready. If it is, I wouldn't want to guess who would win. It would just depend on who came out to vote.
IMO, If Pittenger ran against Harris now, Pittenger will win it hands down. Unlike the NC Primary at the time, this one now has a global presence (thanks to the always deranged MSM). The GOP never wanted Harris, and this will be their opportunity to get rid of him.
It's fascinating. As I understand it, the redrawn District 9 has also been declared unconstitutional. Whoever wins it, won't hold it for long.
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IMO, If Pittenger ran against Harris now, Pittenger will win it hands down. Unlike the NC Primary at the time, this one now has a global presence (thanks to the always deranged MSM). The GOP never wanted Harris, and this will be their opportunity to get rid of him.
It's fascinating. As I understand it, the redrawn District 9 has also been declared unconstitutional. Whoever wins it, won't hold it for long.
In my opinion, Harris is bad news. All McCready had to do was play actual recordings of Harris' thoughts about women to make people's skin crawl.
Look, the federal district court has ordered the whole state to be redistricted & the Republicans in Raleigh begged off until after the election. If they don't hop on it, the court will give them a new set of maps, just like the federal court gave Pennsylvania.
The fool in Union County who's threatening the board of elections is apparently not prone to watching the local news, or doesn't want to run again.
I can't think of a more unappealing candidate than Harris, and I'm not fond of my representative.
If it comes down to Pittenger vs McCready, I think it will depend on 2 things. Did Harris poison the well with swing voters & who actually comes out to vote.
In my opinion, Harris is bad news. All McCready had to do was play actual recordings of Harris' thoughts about women to make people's skin crawl.
Look, the federal district court has ordered the whole state to be redistricted & the Republicans in Raleigh begged off until after the election. If they don't hop on it, the court will give them a new set of maps, just like the federal court gave Pennsylvania.
The fool in Union County who's threatening the board of elections is apparently not prone to watching the local news, or doesn't want to run again.
I can't think of a more unappealing candidate than Harris, and I'm not fond of my representative.
If it comes down to Pittenger vs McCready, I think it will depend on 2 things. Did Harris poison the well with swing voters & who actually comes out to vote.
These are my thoughts on this.
McCready's campaign didn't do it, but an affiliated PAC did run those kind of adverts. The danger of this for McCready, which has burned candidates before in NC, is that he risks the perception of attacking Harris on religious beliefs. I can see why he personally didn't really want to go there and instead leave it to 3rd parties, if that is what happened. It's a risky move that can backfire.
Union country went strongly for Harris. I haven't really taken time to look at where the votes came from as that is really 2 differnt counties these days, but I can see why the commissioners want the race called. If Harris had strong support on the Mecklenburg side of that county that doesn't bode well for the Democrats in the future.
Yes I agree. Harris comes off as a nasty used car salesman. I liked Pittenger alot when I was in District 9 before I got move to district 12 when they redrew the districts. It surprised me when Harris took it. I was really surprised when he then went on to beat McCready. I thought McCready had it given the huge amount of money spent by and on his campaign. Plus he is young fairly good looking man, a veteran, and doesn't have the ick factor that I see with Harris.
Harris did manage to pin Nancy Pelosi on McCready, and then there was that lobbyist thing too. In the end however, I think it was simply a political party turnout thing. I don't the swing voters have much sway in this race.
What is NC's remedy for an illegal election, anyone know?
I was asking myself what would be the proper remedy is this election is found to be invalid - a do-over, or to declare that the runner-up is the winner?
I can see that a do-over would be the cleanest. However, I think there is plenty of justice in declaring the runner-up the winner. Instant karma - play games, and you lose the election.
In my opinion, Harris is bad news. All McCready had to do was play actual recordings of Harris' thoughts about women to make people's skin crawl.
Look, the federal district court has ordered the whole state to be redistricted & the Republicans in Raleigh begged off until after the election. If they don't hop on it, the court will give them a new set of maps, just like the federal court gave Pennsylvania.
The fool in Union County who's threatening the board of elections is apparently not prone to watching the local news, or doesn't want to run again.
I can't think of a more unappealing candidate than Harris, and I'm not fond of my representative.
If it comes down to Pittenger vs McCready, I think it will depend on 2 things. Did Harris poison the well with swing voters & who actually comes out to vote.
It will be very interesting if they re-do the primary in a new election. Pittenger (who I can't stand!) had "suspicions" about voting irregularities in losing the primary to Harris. I wonder if he's still motivated enough to run, at this point? All I know is, that given Harris had a 17,000 vote margin of victory in Union County, I'll crawl over cut glass to vote for a Democrat in the do-over, whenever that happens. Holy-Roller Harris turns my stomach!
What is NC's remedy for an illegal election, anyone know?
I was asking myself what would be the proper remedy is this election is found to be invalid - a do-over, or to declare that the runner-up is the winner?
I can see that a do-over would be the cleanest. However, I think there is plenty of justice in declaring the runner-up the winner. Instant karma - play games, and you lose the election.
This is a first for NC at the congressional level.
It appears that 4 things could happen.
If this is limited to a few hundred ballots, then the NC BOE will certify the election and it will be over. Harris & the GOP, no surprise, are calling for this.
The NCBOE calls for a new election. Then the NC GA (GOP controlled) gets to decide what to do about it. They could just call for a new general election with just the names that were on the ballot in November. Or they could order, I think, the BOE to certify it anyway.
Meanwhile, the US Constitution says that the US House is the final arbiter. And they have the power to keep the seat vacant and ask NC to redo the election. They could deny Harris the seat no matter what. In this case it will be the complete deal, i.e. filings, primary, and general.
Finally the courts could keep this tied up for a long time. If this is the case them the US House may keep Pittenger's staff on hand after Jan 3 to handle constituent issues.
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